Here are few weblinks for information. Please click on these links to get additional information on rigging of EVMs in election 2009 and much more.

http://government.wikia.com/wiki/Review_the_2009_Lok_Sabha_Election_Process:_Promises_and_Reality
http://sites.google.com/site/hindunew/electronic-voting-machines

Thanks,
Yogesh

Many experts has proven that EVMa are not safe and not tamper-prof. Even EVM violates secrecy of ballot by booth proffing. Even everywhere in the world there is a question on credibility of EVMs, then why we are using it? Why cannot we go back to Paper ballot? We people of India (Majority) wants to go back to paper ballot. There was a possibolity of rigging of EVMs and electoral output in last elections (lokasabha 2009 and Maharshtra 2009 election). Because these results were not expected and shocking. What UPA has done in 5 years to come back in power? There is question on honesty of CEC (Mr. Navin Chawla). I don’t know why BJP is silent on this? This is serios national issue.

2. Constitution needs to be modified so that Vidhan sabha and Lok sabha election will happen in same time. Otherwise the regional party are using Lok sabha as a testing ground and puting pressure to negotiate in forming state Govt.

3. Voting should be made mandatory. Gujrat’s bill should be discussed in Lok sabha.

All the above are mandatory the last one I would like to bring forward for having a Brain storming discussion on whether we should have proportionate representation or not? Proportionate representation means : the ruling party,opposition party gets 30%, 25% of the total votes cast and the rest are divided among the regional parties.This is the situation of each polling center. Irrespective to the number of MPs a party has, the number of MPs can be selected from the elected results based on % of votes secured.

This gives a big advantage to political parties that employ unfair mechanisms to get votes – Workers of the party go to houses and leave behind money depending on the number of votes. They don’t ask for votes or even give the money in hand. Voters are afraid to return the money due to fear. They also end up voting for that party fearing that it is possible to find out who they voted for – maybe not at the individual level but at a polling station level.

Effectively, it is possible to win elections just by throwing money. This is highly deplorable. Machines or no machines, no segment-wise details please.

Regards,
Shahul Hameed

Regards,
Shahul hameed

Since VVPAT approach will have a printed backup ballot that will give the authoritative count if the electronic count is disputed, political parties will try rigging the backup ballot. We should ensure that the backup ballots are kept under continuous surveillance. Consequently, we would pretty much be doing everything we were doing when we had the old style paper ballot. We may also see every other candidate disputing the electronic count - manual count would be needed in many cases.

The main USP of EVMs is the ability to get accurate results within a short duration. But, with the suspicion levels on the EVMs and all the manual verifications, the EVMs would not add any major value – we will end up waiting for a long time before the final results are known. It may be cost effective to just go back to the good old paper ballot system.

Regards,
Shahul

Your observations regarding the use of EVM in different part of world is highly commendable and our election commission should look into this aspect very deligently as it is a matter of concern for our democracy and as mentioned by you that most of our citizens are illiterate so it becomes a matter of deep concern.Earlier when we were using ballot papers to cast our vote any rigging or malpractice canbe checked by voters themselves but as now we are using EVM’s any kind of manipulation cannot be checked by common man so their should be paper backup of every vote to enthuse full confidence in outr voting system.

I’m happy that you have revived this blog. My remarks on the present message are as follows: –

You have observed-

1. “we have functioned as a vibrant and vigorous democracy for all these six decades - the nineteen months Emergency (June 1975 to March 1977) being the only bad patch.”

I would like your good self to refer to Subash c. Kashyap’s article(pp11) TOI issue dated23 Jan 2010. He has observed inter alia, the differences between Rajendra Prasad and Javaarlal.Nehru,” what was being fought over was the nature of India’s Polity.” Very true, it has led to” managed democracy, through several maneuvers now through the EVM, which has succeeded in imposing the Gandhi family political ownership of the Indian polity.

2. “and secondly, India’s constitution makers have made the Election Commission truly independent of the executive.”

The controversy surrounding the succession success of Shri Chawla indicates otherwise!! no further comments are necessary.

I would like to reproduce my comments offered on the sincere efforts undertaken by a senior worker from the Hindu Parivar. We all would be obliged, if you seriously consider such efforts in the interest of not only this nation but the entire human life on this planet earth.

“My Dear Ravindra Mahajan,
I received your e-mail on the 4 March 2009 along with the three draft documents. I am offering my hurried remarks. I am avoiding raising a debate on the differences of opinion involving the Bharatiya Darshans as well as other philosophies. My remarks therefore maybe read in that spirit.

Para 1. We believe that it is the Bharatiya World View that alone can lead to establishment of an autonomous, harmonious, exploitation-free, prosperous, self-restrained and alert society.

My remarks: — The word Bharat, according to my understanding indicates a land; where the divine hand of the supreme consciousness is at silent work evolving a kind of divine culture of total integral life, where the chosen leader is a human being [embodied consciousness].

The definition of man or its description appearing at some place is at best based on an observation by a materialist perception and, therefore does not indicate forcefully the chosen role for the human being in the cosmic evolutionary plan. If it’s to be discarded as speculative, then how can we talk of beliefs based on liberal political views and/or unsupported in the terms of materialist logic and science? I would prefer to take not an ambiguous or an equivocal stand but a positive one from the spiritual science.

The word Bha indicates ’spiritual light’ and the total phrase connotes that the inhabitants of this land enjoyed the blissful spirit. In fact,”Bharat Varsha” is a phrase which includes the words Varsha, which means raining Divine Bliss from above.

The opportunity of Birth, life of purusharth, spiritual samskars, blessed sendoff from earthly life to a divine roadmap etc. are the common belief and traditional features of the Hindu life based on Vedic knowledge. The family life of a Hindu was designed by the Hindu societies over generations. This pattern came to be followed merely on belief rather based on understanding of spiritual Vedic knowledge, and consequently was lost by a mere imposition of foreign cultures.

It would be fashionably Commonplace to throwaway this interpretation, but, it is better than a mere belief. Because, I can adduce evidence for such a claim. This is the reason that the cosmic task, which is called ‘Yajna’, i.e. evolution of consciousness to divine status is seriously envisaged by generations of Hindu society living on this land and the object was ‘Krinvanto VishvaAryam”, in other words convert the animal consciousness of the human form as well as the other life forms to divine consciousness. It would be quite obvious that all the mundane objectives of political, social, economical etc. are unified in the single target.

I have written a series of articles in the magazine Disha run by Dr. Vijay Bedekar, chairman Vidya Prasarak Mandal. This is a work in spiritual science, which does not unfortunately attract any attention or does not get evaluated in the face of voluminous political and social criticisms in the intellectual language and thoughts. In Bharat, it is not the philosophy, but the Aunubhuti Shastra, that is regarded as real knowledge. This knowledge is based on yoga and samadhijanya.

In my opinion, we are unwittingly following the commonplace Western cultural approach to knowledge and the Reality.

Para 2: There are two ways of carrying out a national programme. One, through the state power; the other, by changing the people’s attitudes. We have to choose the latter path since it is the superior way.

In this task of bringing about a total transformation in the attitudes and thought-processes and behavior of the whole people, while education will play a stellar role, the social organizations have to work in the society by taking individual after individual and molding him for an organized national life.

My remarks: - Once it is believed that all life on this planet earth is engaged in a deep evolutionary program of consciousness, it would be necessary to understand the relative roles inter se of the individual, society, state or nature that each would play. Outwardly, though it may appear that these roles are different or conflicting or work at cross purposes, yet in the dialectical spiritual process at work, and in place in the Cosmos, this turns out to be a spiralistic harmonizing integral process over the generations and ages of life. Such a long task being beyond imagination of the mortal human being, he is inclined to impose a narrow materialist view on the ongoing evolution.

Therefore, the problem is not to choose one or the other, but to see the Process in its integrality. Our effort has to be involved and engaged in all the instruments of evolution that these parameters represent — the individual, the state, politics, economics, education and ‘Integral Yoga’ etc. in the true understanding of the evolutionary process…

Para 3:- The Bharatiya World View has not only been propounded in Vedas and Upanishads but in recent times by luminaries like Swami Vivekananda, Shri Aurobindo, Mahatma Gandhi, Shri Guruji and Deen Dayal Upadhyaya. (Ref Ekatma Manav Darshan)

My remarks:-it would not suffice in this exercise merely to enlist some of the Scriptures, philosophies or personalities that in our opinion deserve to be relevant or are appropriate in our thesis. Because, the outsiders, by that I mean, those who do not subscribe to these recommended approaches, are seen to engage themselves in approaching the issues in a segmental sectarian and/or in a paradigmal prismatic views.

Vedas and Upanishads are human possessions of true and real knowledge — Rita and Satya, handed down successively or 10,000 years or so by the human societies — Aryan and Hindus. It is called a Shruti knowledge, which is subjected to interpretation by the human beings, many times erroneously. The difficulty is that this knowledge is the secret of the universe and beyond the comprehension of the normal human being. In fact, the yogic, Tantric and now some philological, neuro biological and many other approaches are being developed to decipher this knowledge. Swami Dayanand had written Rigved Bhashya and many other treatises, Mahayogi Aurobindo had written “secrets in Vedas” and many more books including developing a theory” synthesis of yoga”, all such efforts have remained obscure and have not even been studied. Such contributions have not earned any respectful place in the Indian universities and the established Government or Private educational institutions.

Such efforts have been left or have remained a burden on some unknown elected rare individuals; education has fallen into commercial fields–on the other hand secular state is engaged in politics of power, who attach no significance to such concerns.

At present, we are fortunately moved and influenced by the view of Pundit Deen Dayal Upadhyaya, that contemporary global societies have exhausted and failed in following the path of capitalism and communism for human progress and has arrived at a conclusion that a third alternative can be developed and followed based, maybe on Bharatiya culture, philosophy and epistemology.

This he has called “Ekatma-Manav-Darshan (EMD)”.

We are all involved actively in developing this concept. Therefore, I would like to highlight only some points, which need more attention.

We have to assume that Vedic knowledge is supreme. This viewpoint has been held strongly and with conviction by swami Dayanand and Mahayogi Aurobindo. They have regarded this as” Apta Jnyan”, inevitable recourse of real knowledge to mortal human beings. The form in which it exists has not been correctly deciphered, this fight best efforts. There are six Darshanas on the Indian side., and many interpretations through out the world. Vedanta by Adi Shakaracharya is held in high esteem. It is intellectual in content and has been criticized by his own disciples and more validly by swami Dayanand and Aurobindo.

We cannot avoid such analysis or its awareness. The worldview is bound to be dictated by these theories. The present view is not limited by the perception that this world is a Maya — unreal. In the abstract sense of reality it may appear to be unreal but it has a reality of its own and a function to sub serve in the cosmic evolutionary plan. This view is propounded by Mahayogi Aurobindo and has further elaborated by his theory of.’Group Social Soul’. and.’Integral Sociology’. Ekatma Manav Darshan, in my opinion, would be very favourably close to Aurobindo Darshan rather than Shakaracharya and moksha.

We cannot afford to defer this analysis, merely on the consideration of a high regards that Adi Shankeracharya enjoys. Philosophies, theories are all in the crucible of evolutionary churning. One cannot risk taking a terminal view even with respect to Aurobindo’s ‘divine life’. He himself does not wish to be so and has refused to define ‘Divinity’, fearing that it would impose limitations and conditioning on the mind.

One more glaring omission in our debates is about the broader and comprehensive infrastructure of the evolutionary program of consciousness that is needed and partly exists in Bharat. This infrastructure is in a decadent and fractured and spiritless state. Yet, the elaborate religious practices ,rituals,Tirth Khetras,Shakti Sthanas,Tantric , yogic, mantric schools, 16 samskars, templates, sculptures , Puranas, Yajna Systems Agni Hotras and many many more practices and instruments that exist have nurtured, sustained and managed to preserve the original esoteric and potential instruments of human beings to acquire higher states of consciousness particularly spiritual. This is despite the hostile and destructive political occupations by the Muslims and the British in the recent times.

Now this does not mean to paint a political or religious picture at all. The object of contribution of Bharat is and will remain global. But, its seeds lie in Vedic knowledge. This knowledge becomes living knowledge in the context of contemporary human societies living on Earth and especially in Bharat (The land of Spiritual Tree, Ashvattha)

I have indicated principles on which I would like to perceive EMD. I feel honored to have been invited to offer comments. I had done it with my utmost sincerity and limited knowledge. If any clarification or addition is required, I would be glad to offer it.

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