Understanding Genuine Secularism
A very valuable addition to my personal library this week has been a beautiful Coffee Table Book from Amit Mehra titled India : A Timeless Celebration. I congratulate the Public Diplomacy Division of the Ministry of External Affairs for publishing this important book.
Amit Mehra is an outstanding photographer who has been contributing to several renowned magazines like Time, India Today, Der Speigel, Fortune, Vogue etc. Amit Dasgupta’s Introdution and Jaya Ramanathan’s textual explanation of the context of Mehra’s photographs are highly readable.
According to the Longman Dictionary of Contemporary English, a Coffee Table Book is “a large expensive book that usually has a lot of pictures in it and is meant to be looked at rather than read”.
Without doubt, the pictures with which Amit Mehra has embellished this book are a treat to scan. But to me, of even greater interest has been the Foreword written by Mark Tully, who was BBC’s celebrated correspondent in India and South Asia for twenty-five years. Mark Tully, whom I have known and admired for a long time, is now settled in New Delhi and has authored several very enlightening books on India and Indian Culture.
In his foreword, Mark Tully opens by saying:
Mark Tully, the celebrated BBC correspondent in India and South-Asia
In the late nineteen eighties I wrote a book called No Full Stops in India appreciating India’s uniquely tolerant culture, which Amit Mehra celebrates in this book, and argues that it was threatened by Indians who were imitating the modern West’s materialist culture. When a television interviewer told me I wanted to drag Indians back into some mythical Golden Age which had never existed, I replied, “On the contrary I am talking about the tolerant culture India has inherited from the past, the culture which underpins today’s Indian secularism.” Then I asked him, “Do you want an India true to itself or an imitation of the West?” India has changed greatly since then and we should celebrate much of the change. But I think that question is even more relevant today.
Now India has been recognized for what it is, a country with the material and human resources to become one of the most important players in the global market. But the very success of the market economics, which have brought about this change, has led many in India to believe that the country’s future lies in following without questioning that school of economics. I believe that would be contrary to one of the basic principles of Indian culture – the principle which makes it tolerant. That principle is to accept the uncertainty of certainty, to acknowledge there are no final or complete answers, to keep an open mind. In No Full Stops in India I wrote, “The Western world and the Indian elite who imitate it ignore the genius of the Indian mind. They want to write a full stop in the land where there are no full stops.” For all the changes that have taken place since that book was published I still believe what I wrote is true.
Tully goes on to say:
Indian secularism does, as Amit Mehra’s photographs show, respect all religions and rejoices in the diversity of faiths Indians follow. One morning in Delhi I woke up to hear a debate on BBC World Radio Service suggesting that no one should send Christmas cards because they were not secular. The Secularist wanted to deny Britons all the fun, all the color of Christmas, the lights in London’s Oxford Street, the Christmas trees towering over passengers at railway stations, the carol singers going from house to house, because they were demonstrations of Christianity. It was proposed that cards should just carry the drab, uninspiring message, “Happy Mid-Winter Festival.” After hearing that view I picked up my copy of The Hindu, a national daily, to see a front-page picture of the Governor of West Bengal holding a Christmas party for children on the lawns of his house in the middle of Kolkata. The Governor was Gopal Gandhi, and he was following in the footsteps of his grandfather Mahatma Gandhi who once said, “My Hinduism teaches me to respect all religions.”
In one of several conversations I have had with one of India’s leading Islamic scholars, Maulana Wahiduddin Khan, he said to me “I am a Muslim, Islam is my religion, but I honour other religions. I also believe Muslims enjoy far better conditions in India than in any Islamic country. In Islamic countries they either have peace or freedom, in India they have both.” As a Christian living in India I rejoice in the freedom I enjoy. It was a Hindu teacher, Swami Avimukteshwaranand Saraswati who said to me, “There are many rivers flowing into the sea, and they are different; some twist and turn, some are straighter, but they all want to merge in the sea. So with God’s grace there are many ways we can reach God.” When I first came to India I didn’t believe that. I thought there was only one way to God and that was Christianity. It’s India’s tolerance, its secularism that has changed my belief.
Mark Tully concludes his Foreword with the observation:
I started with a quotation from a book I wrote nearly years ago, so perhaps I can end with a quotation from a book I have just written, India’s Unending Journey. The book describes what is India’s tolerance, and pluralism, its argumentative and discursive tradition, its acceptance of the uncertainty of certainty, have meant for me, and the message I felt India could given to the world of today. I wrote, “My experiences in India forced me to think again about the faith I had been taught because I felt I couldn’t ignore what was right before my eyes: the existence of many ways to God….. When I came to understand that, for thousands of years, in changing historical circumstances, in different countries, and cultures and climates, people had experienced what appears to be the same reality, although describing that reality differently, I saw that a universal God made far more sense rationally than one who limited his activities to Christians.” India taught me there has to be an element of questioning of doubt. That means we must be humble, we must never assume we have all the answers. That is the Indian tradition, which Amit Mehra’s photographs illustrate so well.
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The BJP has been of the view that in the circumstances in which India got its independence in 1947, the world would not have been surprised if after Pakistan declared itself an Islamic State, India also had opted for theocracy. But as I have written in my memoirs (My Country My Life) recently, it was Shri Guruji Golwalkar, Chief of the RSS, who had emphatically told me way back in 1948 that theocracy is alien to our culture and tradition. In the West, the word ‘secular’ may mean something that had nothing to do with religion. But India has given a totally different meaning to this word. It has been interpreted as Sarva Panth Samaaadar - that is, equal respect for all religions. This book and Mark Tully’s Foreword underscore this interpretation brilliantly.
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January 12th, 2009 at 1:50 pm
Dear Sir,
I must admit that your writings are informative and knowledgeable. I am really enlightened by the information given by you your blog. I especially liked the previous where you have talked about your experiences in undivided India. It is totally a different perspective when you learn about those situations from people who have actually experienced those circumstances. Thanks for giving information about the book. As a creative person, I always appreciate such diversified steps.
Your explanation of India’s diversity and pluralism reminds me of the Discovery of India where Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru has uniquely placed India’s picture and its dimension of tolerance. I have not read any of your books but after reading this post, I feel like reading them.
The most enticing part of your blog is the portrayal of many Indians whom I never knew but they have done fabulous work in their fields. Thanks for that.
Please keep sharing your experiences.
Thanks once again.
Anand Bora
January 12th, 2009 at 1:59 pm
though I stay in Delhi, basically from Orissa & my district is rayagada very close to kandhamal, the recent violence in kandhmal is being highlighted by media though in the ground nothing much being affected. secularism prevails adjoining district and will continue.
the tribal are the ancient and conversion is a serious threat in that area, I have a strong feeling these can be avoided by development, attention of the govt. also the naxel issue need to be addressed.
January 12th, 2009 at 2:34 pm
Respected Advaniji
Pranaam,
I invite you to visit my blog on Indian Politics.
http://hitchintak.blogspot.com
http://pravakta.com
Thanks.
regards,
Sanjeev Kumar Sinha
January 12th, 2009 at 3:38 pm
Congratulations on putting a foot into the cyber sphere! Using the internet’s phenomenal resources deftly won President-elect Obama the US election! As Oliver Wendell Holmes said: “A mind that is stretched by a new experience can never go back to its old dimensions.” We’re looking forward to more from you.
January 12th, 2009 at 4:46 pm
The more we change the more we remain the same, for this dynamics is what defines us Indians.
Respected Sir, i would like to add to your commentary that as Hindus we were never a religion. We have been a nation that goes beyond the western definitions of nation states - we have always been a cultural entity - one that believes in adding up new.
Its wrong to call Hindus being tolerant - its the fact that being Hindu is not following one religion - its following a set of ideas. How else can one explain 105 crore people worshipping 32 crore gods???
In fact the fact that we are tolerant because majority of this country believes that there are so many gods, and people can choose to worship one they like - to some extent it goes the same way with Allah and Jesus (yet another set of god)
What we need is not debate on god or secularism, what we need is leadership with karma so that we can place him to a pedestal of god. Lord Ram is the prime example of what we need - someone who is banished into a forest and rises to heroics by defeating an empire covering half the india and most of Indochina.
The question is sir - are you up to the job you ask for?
January 12th, 2009 at 6:58 pm
Advaniji,
It was so enlightening, When will people in Parliament understand this ?
Regards
Raghu
January 12th, 2009 at 7:17 pm
Adarniy Advaniji,
Sadar Pranam. I went through your post on ‘Secularism’. Its good, but how to make the general public understand the true meaning of ’secularism’. What the common man been fed since the independence is —-
1. To speak of Maharana Pratap, Shivaji, Hada Rani, Chanakya, Prithvi Raj Chauhan and so many others is termed as communal talks.
2. To read the actual history which consists how we remained slaves prior to Britishers is termed as teaching of hatred & communal. Even the talks to amend the text books of such institutions do the rounds.
3. To speak of minority benefit in J&K and north east is communal.
4. To speak of Hindu related subjects is communal.
This list could be endless. Apposite to this everything is secular, so one has to put its hand on the head and has to think - ‘what actually is there in future of India’?
In this regard I would like to request u that once, I think it was post Ayodhya, I heard a word ‘pseudo secularism’ from u, and this was the right term to define the present secularism, which now a days prevailing in our country.
But now the question arises, how do we counter it? To my mind education of masses is the need of the hour. Once the public is educated, they will be well aware of the actual meaning of secularism.
January 12th, 2009 at 8:41 pm
First of all, its a great joy to see you making use of latest technology to reach people. Young people like me always get impressed and happy when they see the politicos using latest tools..
I have got a haiku for you..(http://twitter.com/sevenlives/status/1077496994)
”
Peace and goodwill,
they are everlasting desires,
Weak people have got no options…
”
Which country other then India make an overuse of the word secular? Why do we still need to define this word? Why?
About Hinduism - Todays Hinduism is caught between
1. Minority castes in Open catagory having less political representation..
2. OBC catagory,and
3. Non Hindu Minorities..
No wonder vote bank politics, casteism is rampant in our ’secular’ country..
I will make a harsh statement, maybe you know it much better, but I predict it - You cannot become the next PM of the country..reason
1. You lack the charisma of Mr Atal Bihari Vajpayee.
2. You lack the support of your BJP co-workers
3. You are too old (82) to run this country. Sorry Sir, India needs young agressive, and positive minded blood.
4. BJP cannot win complete majority on its current agenda, and the irony is, the moment if changes its current agenda to something like that of Congress, your traditional voters will make immediate walkout from your camp.
5. You used Lord Ram for political benefit. How long it takes to construct a damm temple at a place? You were in power since 1996 to 2004. You did nothing worthy. Why? Were you scared?
6. You openly criticize congress, communist and their supporters for taking India on a backtrack, dividing people, but you cannot ignore that these people are in power and you are not..the best thing you can do is ‘grumble in front of media’, and you and your party does it so many times, dont they?
There is something in them that makes them win 85% of times. And you, so called Hinduism saffrom parties take the beating? Duh..Think on that..!!
7. Bring someone having young blood in him. Modi will do, but we want someone more younger.
PS - Secular is a abusive term. Please dont use it too often..
And one very good point - To show you are a true secular person
1. Just utter something about ‘Uniform Civil Code’. Secularism is incomplete without it..!! Its a sin to think of ‘true’ secularism without Uniform Civil Code. UCC…!! While you were in power, you did nothing about it.
2. Mention something about illegal Bangladeshis staying in Assam. How many bullets are required to send them to hell?
We want a damm change..Its time to change..!
JaY Shree Ram..!!
January 12th, 2009 at 9:14 pm
[...] Advani in his blog makes an important observation it was Shri Guruji Golwalkar, Chief of the RSS, who had emphatically told me way back in 1948 that [...]
January 12th, 2009 at 9:45 pm
Dear Sir
Indeed very true. Mark Tully just got to the very same teaching that Swami Vivekananda delivered in Chicago with the help of the famous “ruchinaam vichitriyad riju kutila……..” sloka from the ancient Shiva Mahimnah Stavah from the medium of another spiritual instructor. To say that God is sectarian or a one-way street is the only “blasphemy” (if we may call it so) that one can commit in our great motherland!
But, unfortunately, somewhere down the line, those parties that call themselves ’secular’ and constantly wear the ’secular’ badge have banned themselves entry into the great repository of culture and inspiration that is our rightful and dutiful inheritance. Today, on the political arena, probably BJP is the only party that can draw inspiration from what is authentically Indian, the rest are slowly (sadly, they also seem to surely) losing touch with our roots.
Coming to your presence on the Internet, I must say, you have outpaced the competition by aeons. When it comes to BJP’s chief rival, the Congress party, they do not even maintain their party website even to post any press statements or make any policy statements! This existing lead must be further extended. My sincere suggestion is to give a facelift to the http://www.bjp.org website as well, and upgrade it to include more party related information and make that also dynamic website. lkadvani.in will serve as the “primeministerial candidate’s portal” and bjp.org will serve as the “party portal”.
Best Regards
Phani
January 12th, 2009 at 10:33 pm
Dear Advani ji,
Congratulations for being the first Indian politician-statesman to venture into the blogsphere. I am sure your website and especially this blog will take the country by storm, and will be one of the focal points of Elections 2009. I wish you all success.
As I follow your blog and thoughts, - I haven’t read your autobiography yet, too costly - there are a few facets of our collective national consciousness that continue to bother me:
1. Caste system in India: I have searched deeply into the Vedic texts, for some evidence, some kind of sanction for a system of segregation based on blood ties. I have yet to see a single verse to that effect. There is a system of four-fold classification, based on one’s qualities and work - guna and karma, but never janma - birth. This simple truth is alien to vast populace of India including a vast majority of our saffron clad charlatans. Ask one the “Shankaracharyas” if you have a doubt! Can this ignorance, that cloud our collective intelligence, be ever removed?
2. Language chauvinism: India, unlike China, has been a fertile ground for many languages. But love for Hindi prevents most of us from learning any other language. We therefore profoundly prefer a person who speaks Hindi, than say Tulu or Ao. Tulu! Ao! Are they Indian? Can we ever stop loving, or inordinately loving for that matter, people who speak Hindi? Or Tamil or Assamese?
3. Religion: Being a prison, a place from where you can not walk out, religion is the biggest constraining presence we feel in our daily life. Being a Hindu is good. Why because Hinduism is a tolerant religion, not a prison where you are placed by the accident of birth. But is as far the Hinduism of Vedas go. Hinduism of the Sankaracharayas is a different beast all together. A swift passage through “Hindu Dharma” (http://www.kamakoti.org/newlayout/template/hindudharma.html) will amply clarify my thoughts. And if the most tolerant, most evolved and most elevating (and so on) of all religions is the most degenerate, what to say of other religions! How do you, as a nation, escape from this jail?
4. Truth Vs Falsehood: We cheat on taxes, as we on traffic rules and other regulations. We have no compunction in doling out falsehoods as extracts from Vedas. The Vedic “authorization” of sati is a fine example. Can we ever look for that “…heaven of freedom” in this ocean of falsehood?
Thank you.
January 12th, 2009 at 10:51 pm
namaste,
I want to mail you this about secularism.Please apologist for any discomfort.
परिदृश्य एक - 17 sept. 1787 को तैयार अमेरिकी संविधान को लागू करने के लिए 13 मे से 9 राज्यों की पुष्टि होना ज़रूर थी जो June 1988 आते-आते हो गए थी,लकें दो बड़े राज्यों न्यूयार्क और वर्जीनिया की पुष्टि के बिना संविधान लागु करना आसान नहीं होता,इसलिए लम्बे बातचीत के बाद संविधान मे अधिकारों के कानून जोड़ने का फैसला हुआ| सितम्बर 1789 में संशोधन के लिए न्यूयार्क मे बुलाये गए फेले कांग्रेस मे १२ संविधान संशोधन हुए जिन्हें अधिकारों का कानून कहा जाता है|दिसम्बर 1791 तक १० संशोधनों को सभी राज्यों ने मंजूरी दे दी थी|पहिले संशोधन मे कहा गया है,”अमेरिकी कांग्रेस कीसी भी धर्म के पक्ष मे कानून नहीं बनाएगी,कीसी भी धर्म को मानने की आजादी पर प्रतीबंद नहीं लगायेगी,अभिव्यक्ती की आज़ादी बरकरार रहेगी,लोगो को कही भी इकठा होने और अपनी मांगो के लिए प्रदर्शन का अधिकार होगा|” यूरोप में तब धर्मो में संघर्ष चल रहा था,लोग अमरीका की और पलायन कर रहे थे|भविष्य मे अमरीका के टूटने का खतरा न हो,इसीलिए इन्संशोधानो का महत्वा था| हालाकी कई राज्यों ने बाद मे चर्च की स्थापना करी| इतना ही नहीं,अमेरिकी सुप्रीम कोर्ट ने मोरेमूंस समुदाये की बहुविवाह जैसी धार्मिक प्रथाओ के खिलाफ फैसले भी सुनाए|लेकिन महत्वपूर्ण ये है की अम्रेके संविधान मे सेकुलरिस्म शब्द का जिक्र नहीं है|
परिदृश्य दो :- सेकुलरिस्म शब्द का इस्तमाल सबसे पहले १८५१ में leicestershire (landlocked county in central England) में सेकुलर सोसाइटी की सथापना के साथ हुआ|सोसाइटी की फेले मीटिंग में कहा था ” हम खुले दिमाग के लोग हैं,हम सेकुलरिज्म की परिभाषा को ले कर कोई जिद्दी रवईया नहीं अपनाएंगे|सेकुलरिज्म की बारे में कुछ एसे सुझाव सामने आये हैं, पहला- वास्तविक मानवता पर विश्वास( एक-दुसरे की मदद की भावना),दूसरा - वीचार रखने की आजादे और धर्म व राज्य को अलग रखना,तीसरा- वास्तविकता आदृत तर्कों पर बहस करना और सामान विचारो के लोगो से संपर्क बनाना,चौथा- मानव अधिकारों पर आधारित खुले समाज की वकालत| `उनीस्वी शताब्दी मे जीजो होलीयोक ने सेकुलरिस्म को जीवन का दर्शन कहा जिसमे इधर-उधर से सूनी गयी बातो या आछी लगने वाली बातो के आधार पर कोई मान्यता नहीं बनाई जाती,बल्की तर्कों के आधार पर कीसी बात पर राये बनाये जाते है| सेकुलरिस्म मे भरोसा रखने वाले मानती है की धर्म अभिलाशाओ पर आधारित बीते ज़माने के वीचार हैं| अमरीका और यूरोप में धर्म को मानने वाले लोगो का मत है की सेकुलर लोग अनास्तिक होते है|
परिदृश्य तीन:- भारत का संविधान बनाते समय अमेरिकी संविधान की तरह हे सेकुलर शब्द का प्रयोग नहीं किया गया| जिस तरह अमरीका मे धर्म को मानाने की आजादी दी गयी,उसी तरह भारतीय संविधान मे भी धर्म को मानाने की आजादी दी गयी| जो खतरा अमरीका के सामने था वाहे भारत के सामने भी था,इसीलिए भारतीय संविधान मे अल्पसंख्यको के अधिकारों की रक्षा करी गयी है| अमरीकी संविधान मे धर्म और राज्य को अलग अलग मन गया है,लेकिन भारतीय संविधान में एसा कहे नहीं लिखा गया| भारतीय संविधान निर्माताओ को अमरीका की तरह धर्म और राज्य को अलग करने की फिक्र नहीं थी,क्योकि भारत मे धर म हर वियक्ति की ज़िन्दगी का हिस्सा है| भारतीय संविधान ने हिन्दू समाज को सुधार्वादे बनाने के लिए बाकायदा धार्मिक मामलो मे दखल दे कर अनुच्छेद १७ मे हिन्दू की रूधिया ख़तम करने का प्रावधान है,जिसके तहत सभी हिन्दुओ को बिना जाते भेदभाव के मंदिर जाने का हक दिया गया है| बाद मे १९५५ में हिन्दू विवाह कानून बनाया गया,जिसमे दहेज़ प्रथा,बल विवाह, बहु विवाह पर प्रतिबन्ध लगाये गए| भारतीय संविधान मे धर्म से जुड़े इतने प्रावधान है की धर्म और राज्य को अलग किया हे नहीं जा सकता| पंडित नेहरु धर्म व राज्य को अलग करना चाहते थे,लेकिन उनके इच्छा के खिलाफ मंत्रिमंडल ने सरकार खर्च से सोमनाथ मंदिर के पुनरुद्धार का प्रस्ताव पारित किया|
परिदृश्य चार:- इन्द्र गाँधी ने १९७६ में इमरजेंसी के दौरान संविधान मे संशोधन कर उसके प्रस्तावना मे समज्वादे और सेकुलर शब्द जोड़ दिए|इन शब्दों के जुड़ने के बाद संविधान के कई हिस्से परस्पर विरोधी हो गए हैं | एक तरफ संविधान हिन्दुओ,मुसलमानों और इसाईयों के लिए अलग अलग कानूनों का प्रावधान करता है,दुसरी तरफ राज्यों के सेकुलर होने के नाते उसका कीसी धर्म से कोई लेना देना भी नहीं है| सेकुलरिस्म अपनाने के बावजूद भारतीय संसाद तलाकशुदा मुस्लिम महिलाओ के गुजरे भत्ते संबन्धी कानून बनाती है| सेकुलर होने के बावजूद विभिन्न धार्मिक यात्राओ का बंदोबस्त करती है और आर्थिक सहायता भी उपलब्ध करवाती है| सेकुलरिस्म के तहत जब धर्म और राज्य का सम्बन्ध नहीं होना चाहिये तो सरकार धन धार्मिक कार्यो पर खर्च भी क्यों होना चाहिये| अमरीकी संविधान मे धार्मिक आजादे होने के बावजूद सुप्रीम कोर्ट ने समाज सुधर करते हुए मोरेमूंस समुदाय की बहु विवाह प्रथा पर रूक लगा दी थी| लेकिन भारत मे अल्पसंख्यक मुस्लिम समाज मे इक्कीसवी सदी में भी बहु विवाह प्रथा को कानुन अधिकार मिला हुआ है,भारतीय अदालत को प्रतेबंद लगानेका कोई हक नहीं है,क्युकी भारत मे सामान नागरिक संहिता नहीं है|
परेदृश्य पांच:- भारत मे सेकुलरिस्म को अनोखे ढंग से परेभाषित किया जा रहा है| संविधान के अनुच्छेद १५ मे कहा गया है की राज्य कीसी नागरिक के साथ धर्म,जाते,जन्म स्थान और लिंग के अधर पर भेदभाव नहीं करेगा| इसके बावजूद हिन्दुओ,मुसलमानों और इसयो के साथ राज्य अलग अलग तरह का व्यहार करता है| अमरीका ने यूरोप से सबक लेकर राज्य और धर्म को अलग अलग करने का प्रावधान संविधान में जोड़ा था| इसमें मूल भावना यह थी की समाज के सभी वर्गों को आपस में जोड़ा जाये और एक राष्ट्र का निर्माण किया जाये| भारतीय संविधान की भावना भी यही थी जतेवाद को करने की बजाये आरक्षण के बहाने वोट बैंक बनाकर जातेयो मे तनाव पैदा कर दिया गया| UPA सरकार ने फेले आतंकवाद विरोधे pota कानून को एक धर्म विशेष के खिलाफ बताकर रद्द कर दिया और बाद में वोट बैंक की राज्नीते को आगे बढाते हुए संविधान के प्रस्तावने में लीखे हुए भावना और अनुच्छेद १५ को टाक पर रख कर सेना समेत देश भर के सभी सरकारी-अर्धसरकारी संस्थानों में मुस्लिमो की गिनती करवाकर बहुसंख्यक हिन्दुओ से टकराओ पैदा कर दिया| आतंकवाद के दोषियों को भी धर्म और जात देख कर सजा देना शुरू कर दिया गया है| सेकुलरिज्म का सिद्धांत तर्क के आधार पर अपनी राइ बनाना है,आस्थाओ के आधार पर नहीं| तसलीमा नसरीन को एक धर्म विशेष के कट्टरपंथीयों के दबाव में बार बार भारत से निकला जाना देश के सेकुलर संविधान के एकदम विपरीत है|
मंथन:- क्या भारत मे सेकुलरिस्म का अर्थ बदलकर अल्पसंख्यवाद नहीं हो गया है? क्या हिन्दुओ,मुसलमानों और धर्मो के के अलग अलग कानून होते हुए सेकुलरिस्म को इमानदारी से लागु किया जा सकता है ? सेकुलरिस्म कको लागु करने के लिए क्या सामान नागरिक संहिता आदर्श स्थिति नहीं है? सरकार को सुधारवादी होना चाहिये या कीसी धर्म,समुदाय,जाती के दबाव मे आकर कानून-काएदा बनाना चाहिये ? क्या इन्हें कारणों से साधू संत समाज और यहाँ तक के भारतीय सेना मैं भी आक्रोश पैदा हो गया है?
-अजय सेतिया
राजनीतिक विश्लेषक
January 12th, 2009 at 11:53 pm
Advani ji,
There is one important aspect that upholds indian plurality is neglected by almost all intellegensia.. that is the caste system.. it has its own share of drawbacks.. but it ensured an implicit character of mutual acceptance, and it ensured that a particular community can hold on its culture without being disturbed for thousands of years..
Long back, i published an excellent article from kalavai venkat, regarding this pluralism, and how and why it existed in india..
http://psenthilraja.wordpress.com/2006/08/17/a-pluralists-encounter-with-a-missionary/
Secondly, i could see the tendency of later hindu people, to emulate a type of mild unharmful intolerance.. ie, they attribute everything to vedas, and declare things like vedic and non-vedic..
I rever vedas high, and i feel, it has been topmost plane of hinduism.. but, india’s culture is vast and diverse, that we cannot fit vedas to all types of people..
So, when we talk about hinduism, its not just vedas.. but encompases all sections of people, and all forms of worship and culture..
Secondly, for every hindu, his kula deva is the primary god that he worships.. and since the kula deva is associated with his kulam, which is hereditary, there is no urge for him to spread his god or worship..
And this is what i feel, the exact reason for india’s secularism, plurality and acceptance..
However, we cannot reject that hinduism, never proletysed.. we have the history of shaivism and vaishnavism clashing with each other for some times.. but the positive aspect is that soon, our sages realised, and established the unity of shiva and vishnu..
also, the saivism and vaishnavism co-existed with caste system .. my mother’s lineage belongs to shaivism, while my father’s lineage belongs to vaishnavism..
Indian secularism and plurality is a vast subject to research and understand.. and hope, with more awareness of our culture, the present and next generation would be able to do that..
January 12th, 2009 at 11:58 pm
Dear Advaniji,
Saadar Namaste!!! again a nice post. but m disappointed a bit … how long it ‘ll take to find an exact defination of Secularism??? can u tell me …plz.
What is ur Defination ( Understanding) of Secularism??? in 2-3 lines….
Regards
Rajat…..
January 12th, 2009 at 11:59 pm
Respected Advani ji,
Thank you for sharing your thoughts on the unique nature of India, particularly the mention of how India embraces all cultures and notions without prejudice or reservation. I write a blog as well; at
http://theindianoracle.blogspot.com/
and would be deeply honoured if you would visit the same. I would entreat you, in particular,
to write a post explaining the relevance and meaning of the RSS in modern India.
1) What is the RSS and what exactly does it stand for? What is the position of the RSS with regard to embrace of modern technology, science, etc.?
2) How does the RSS define India? What is the RSS position on Akhand Bharat? What is the position of RSS on the Aryan Invasion Theory?
3) How do you understand patriotism and internationalism? How can one be a patriot and an internationalist at the same time?
I hope you take the time to help youngsters like me who are struggling to fully comprehend the greatness of India.
January 13th, 2009 at 12:08 am
Advaniji Namaste
First of all I would like to congratulate you on utilizing internet and social media to run the campaign. It is something which other political parties should also learn and imbibe in their campaigns.
I admire that at this age, you have adopted the change which is commendable to say the least. But Advaniji at the risk of sounding contrarian thinker, I would believe that it would have been better if you would have shared your thoughts with us instead of just Tully’s thoughts and foreword. We, the young Indians, want to listen to you and learn from your rich experience.
Hope I have not crossed my line of decency.
January 13th, 2009 at 2:13 am
Mr.Advaniji,
This article was enlightening and it was good to understand your thoughts on secularism which is so thought provoking. I request you to also check out my blogs:
http://risingcitizen.blogspot.com/
http://allaboutatalbiharivajpayee.blogspot.com
-Anjan
January 13th, 2009 at 6:59 am
The cognition of the very conscience of India people, as Mr. Mark Tully states, is true. The tolerance and the liberal view beneath diversities in sects the people have been following in India is a direct repercussion of millennia long realization by we Indians or better say, Bharatiya, the Cosmic Unity, Tat tvam asi or aham brahmaasmi.To see traces of this fact one, be it an Indian or a foreigner, does not need to go to some theological course. If one has his “eyes open”, and if one is sensitive enough, he or she can observe in the day to day behavior of common people.
It is so deeply rooted that every act of people goes unconsciously or without any celebrate intension.
What we call Dharma, is in fact the “Order within Cosmic Unity”. This cosmic ordering principle keeps on working and as soon as a “person” begins to exist on conception becomes bound by this cosmic order. It has nothing to do with the “faith” or method of worship, i.e, religion that new born person would follow in his or her life.
Thus the ordering law of cosmic unity is entirely independent of the path of worship one chooses. The situation is analogous to the Indic position on religious salvation—that a human being has access to it not by virtue of belonging to this or that religion—but by the mere fact of being a human being.
The fact of matter is that the duality inherent in our own reasoning makes it more convincing to believe in all those things which are consequences of duality.
And the process goes on, leading to very many interpretation and consequent uses and abuses by those superior in power, be it intellectual power, might or wealth. It is due to this fact, for centuries interpretations have been made by power brokers to satisfy their vested interests.
Like Mr. Tully, Kerry Brown1 observes, “… the culture that we know now as Hinduisms and that the Indian ones call Sanatana Dharma - the Law Eternal - precedes this name by thousands of years. This is more than a religion, more than the theological direction in which the west understands religion. One can believe in all divinities or in no divinity and remain Hindu. This is a manner to living.”
It is due to this prevalent undercurrent, Tully observes that Indian secularism does respect all religions and rejoices in the diversity of faiths we Indians follow but, “the Western world and the Indian elite who imitate it ignore the genius of the
Indian mind. They want to write a full stop in the land where there are no full stops.”
This is why he writes, “for thousands of years, in changing historical circumstances, in different countries, and cultures and climates, people had experienced what appears to be the same reality, although describing that reality differently, I saw that
a universal God made far more sense rationally than one who limited his activities to Christians.” This is why Shri Guruji Golwalkar, said that theocracy was alien to our culture and tradition.
If we have to succeed, we must strive to work hard to check various misinterpretations of the words like secularism and identification of Sanatan as religion and to clear minds of the people from any pre seated misunderstanding.
January 13th, 2009 at 8:52 am
Sir
It’s a Wonderful write up; I definitely would want to read the book India: A Timeless Celebration. Sir I have a question to you, would you want India to be a state recognized by the religion that its citizens follow or as a nation which stands triumphant vindicating the values of humanity ?………
If you have time…just take a look at this small write up of mine, I am not a writer, I am just your ordinary citizen….. Just click on these links….
http://themortalbeing.blogspot.com/2008/10/my-thoughts-about-communalism.html
Thank you
Prasanna Kumar
chennai
January 13th, 2009 at 12:10 pm
Hindus have never had a need for this word ‘Secularism’, as the very concept of Hindu Dharma is that God is one and different people worship Him in different ways.
January 13th, 2009 at 12:19 pm
Mark Tully is right. But when its quoted by Advaniji, I am little but amused. Do we always need certificate from Westerners?
(I am using IE8. Its not allowing to post more than 300 characters- which is extremely small. It worked fine 2-3 days back).
January 13th, 2009 at 6:21 pm
@Bhaskar_Chatterjee: Mark Tully is a well-known and respected journalist, in print and radio. He is (apparently) a good friend of Mr Advani. What does it matter that he is British or Western? Your nationalism is showing. Please put it away and button it up.
January 13th, 2009 at 6:22 pm
The “Secularist” that Mr Tully heard on the radio was in fact an Atheist. The two are often confused. A secularist can still believe in God, as long as it does not conflict with his roles and resposibilities in larger society.
January 13th, 2009 at 6:44 pm
Another nice blog by Shri Advaniji. We have put up this blog on our website, which is a counterpoint to English Liberal Media of India - http://www.bharatright.com
January 14th, 2009 at 12:18 am
WISH U SIR A VERY HAPPY SANKRANTI WISH BJP COMES TO POWER THIS YEAR
January 14th, 2009 at 3:26 am
A people that requires its wood cutters to seek the permission of the tree and ask for its pardon before cutting it, has no need to be taught secularism or respect for others’ ways.
January 14th, 2009 at 8:03 am
Good to see Advaniji having a blog. Wish you best of luck in 2009 elections. Hope to see an article with your ideas about India’s National security and strategy for the future.
January 14th, 2009 at 11:17 am
Understanding genuine secularism…
Mark Tully’s forward to Amit Mehra’s latest coffee table book on India gives voice to how an average Indian understands, experiences and practices his/her secularism.
Interestingly I found this on L.K Advani’s blog.If BJP could genuinely base its i…
January 14th, 2009 at 1:30 pm
Dear Advanaiji ,
. I have recently opened on a group called Bhartia Janata Party on Linked In to attract working class .
The link for the BJP on Linked In is as follows
http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=1603437&trk=hb_side_g
Regards
ranga
January 14th, 2009 at 1:52 pm
website and blog quite impressive…….
January 14th, 2009 at 4:04 pm
Sir, why has the BJP supp quotas when it has not worked till date. Dosent the article mention all religions equal,why should we have caste based reservations?
hope 2 c u as PM
January 14th, 2009 at 4:46 pm
Sir,
Nice Website, Nice Blog and Nice Post on Secularism. Hope this time BJP gets coalition partners that we see BJP at the helm again….
January 14th, 2009 at 5:35 pm
hello sir, dont forget the hinduism promise as u did in last term i wish u become pm of bharat.
January 15th, 2009 at 12:28 am
Valid points have been raised by two of your visitors in the comments section- ‘drzen’ and ‘THK’.
Also recommend that you go through Koenraad Elst’s book on BJP, soft copy available here - http://koenraadelst.voiceofdharma.com/books/bjp
Would appreciate your comments on your forthcoming blogs
January 15th, 2009 at 2:17 am
Hello Sir,
Here is something that I genuinely feel. Please take a few minutes to read what I have to say. It wouldnt fit in here. So I have put it on my blog. Please spare a few minues sir.
http://jyotv.com/a-request-to-advaniji.jpv
Thanks
Jyot Vakharia
January 15th, 2009 at 2:41 am
Dear Advaniji,
Its such a pleasure to find you on Internet. What a wonderful write-up sir..
Usually, like any other youngster, I would have NEVER read a foreword written in a book.. Infact I had never figured why its even written..
BUT I WAS PLEASANTLY SURPRISED..!! WOW..!!
..continued..
January 15th, 2009 at 2:44 am
..continued..
Sir, I genuinely had tears in my eyes when I read what Mark Tully has written about our country.. Loved these closing words: “..That means we must be humble, we must never assume we have all the answers…”
Thank you so much..
Looking forward to your future blogs.
Aapka,
Kshitij..
January 15th, 2009 at 7:18 pm
Sir, I really liked this post.
Looking forward to your future posts.
January 16th, 2009 at 2:18 pm
Sir,
As the next PM of India we expect you to take the correct steps to safeguard our national security and honour. Below are articles by Dr.Subash Kapila, a strategic affairs analyst at South Asia Analysis Group. He rightly says that we have lost our national honour in the Mumbai attacks, and by not showing courage against Pakistani adventurism we are on the verge of becoming “a kept woman among nations”. I request you to kindly read the following articles.
“Power Status does not come cheaply and nor does it come without the guts to bear losses in the pursuit of power. Power accrues only to those who are bold and audacious.”
http://www.southasiaanalysis.org/papers31/paper3015.html
“The nation which depends for the security of its honour on some international force (or support from a superpower: my emphasis) has become but a kept woman among nations. There is only one guardian of honour – a virile arm backed by a virile brain. Again a state, which is not prepared to defend its honour by a righteous war, and depends on the benevolence of others to guarantee its existence, when life is threatened, is but a paralytic living in an alm-house; it has scarcely the right to live, for it lacks the might to thrive”
http://www.southasiaanalysis.org/papers31/paper3004.html
January 16th, 2009 at 9:35 pm
Although secularism is supposed to be enshrined in the Constitution, both major political parties i.e. the BJP and the Congress are widely credited with having engineered communal violence and have won huge electoral victories in the bargain, post violence (e.g. 1984 and 2002).
January 16th, 2009 at 10:29 pm
Is the post of PM a benchmark for the person like Advani??? Remember Gandhi ji. He never projected himself for any post. He is father of the nation today. Advani will always be Advani, whether he becomes PM or not. Better the nation should call you a leader rather than a politician.
January 17th, 2009 at 6:08 am
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January 17th, 2009 at 3:55 pm
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January 18th, 2009 at 8:27 am
Mr.Advani How you propose to win the confidence of the minorities?
January 19th, 2009 at 9:47 am
dear advaniji,
i am very happy to see your blog, and iam a fan of modis govt, i expect you are a next pm of our india,
January 19th, 2009 at 10:28 am
The word “secular” is the most abused word in India.
Political parties in India pay lip service to secularism and then provide all kinds of sops to religious institutions.
Secularism is the separation of religion from state. Why is that so hard for politicians (and the public) to comprehend?
January 19th, 2009 at 1:53 pm
Secularism means being a majority who can genuinely ask for its rights. I want to know from my secular friends in opposition to tell me 3 muslim country which has more than 50% percent of population & is called “secular”.
Our country is pluralistic & would remain so… but we do dont want “pseudo seculars” like congras & CPI, SP etc.
January 21st, 2009 at 6:29 pm
I wonder why is there so much stress on the word ‘Tolerence’. Why should not the word ‘Acceptance’ be used instead whenever we talk of Indian Culture. On one hand we say that India is a country which accepts every religion without bias on the other hand we put the onus on being tolerant. Vajpayee Ji in one of his utterances had said “Sarva Dharma Smbhav”. How do we understand “Sambhav” as ‘Acceptance’ or ‘Tolerance’. Tolerance is more negative and has limits while acceptance is more encompassing and is limit less. One can pour any amount of water in Ocean it assimilates it and does not change its identity or culture. Maybe if we looked at re-defining Secularism as acceptance of all religions and not as being tolerant towards all religion we may be better served.
January 22nd, 2009 at 10:38 am
The secularism is inherent in the concepts of Sanathana Dharma. It does not force upon anyone any of its belief and value systems. These very tolerant and free thought are being attacked today. The indian english media has forgotten Swami Vivekananda and gives live coverage stating the canonisation of woman in Kerala by Pope as India’s first woman saint. It is an insult to the Hindus and the likes like many like maitri, vakhambhrini in the vedic period and saints like Meerabhai, Amritanandamayi, sarada devi and many many women who have walked this sacred land.
We all know it is the corridors of power in N Delhi, the present governmnet who continously insult the traditions of our country. We wish and pray that you become the PM of this country and instil the swabhiman of millions like me.
January 22nd, 2009 at 5:09 pm
Adarneeya, AdvaniJi,Charan Sparsh, Since my child hood i have accepted you Shri Atalji and Yourself as the true leader India can have. But none of you were complete without other.
I feel disturbed how this ONLY nationalist party is loosing its shine now. It all started because of overambitious lot Promod, Naidu,Kalyan,Anant,Lady from Rajashthan and shatru. You gave a nelson eye when they plotted to betray atalji in last elections and see now they are betraying you. Its unthinkable and does not make much sense for BJP without Atalji. Atalji himself was incomplete without you in last election and now you are turning yourself in to same fate?? What has happened to that wisdom. why are you so take away from EGO and on up manship. Kalyan has done betrayal and other shrude Lots have disappeared, further moving away from Bajpai ji will put BJPs chances in tailspin. Kindly rise to the occassion for the shake of party you nurtured.
January 24th, 2009 at 12:16 am
I voted for Congress lasttime and i REPENT for that. I am a secularist but believe that hindus are being taken for granted in our own homeland. I appeal all the true hindus to vote for BJP as this is the only party which would listen to the hindus and at the same time won’t hamper the interests of other religions.
@Hindus- If we dont open our eyes and realise what is served to us by the Congress(Read anti-hindu) we would witness our religion facing its doomsday soon.
@BJP- Make sure you give tickets to eligible people and make sure Sanjay dutt doesn’t win in lucknow(the possibility of his losing is max in case atal ji is d contender otherwise i doubt. pls see what you ca do)
January 25th, 2009 at 10:56 am
Resp. Advani ji
Wahe Guru ji Ka Khalsa, Wahe Guru Ji Ki Fateh,
Indian politics gave us a terminology…..SECULARISM, which is based on voting pattern of a segment or social group …..in simple words, it is called vote politics. In the 300 th year of Gurta Gaddi of Shri Guru Granth Sahib , atleast now, we should think about a term- SANJHIWALTA,given by our Shabad Guru. The term Sanjhiwalta is based on very existence of God,…Wahe Guru,…Hari,…Ishwar. Since existence of God and his whole universe are absolute truth, the concept of Sanjhiwalta is also true.
SABEY SANJHIWAL SADAYAN TU-N KISEY NA DEESEY BAHIRA JIO
Can you put this term- Sanjhiwalta to make your stand clear in the next elections?
January 25th, 2009 at 2:47 pm
I would like to express my deep grief for the thought that the Present UPA govt. is planning to introduce a new bill which will equalize the “Madrasa” education equivalent to the CBSE. Its really sad to realize that our vote bank politics is going from Bad to worse, politicians are busy encashing it.
The muslim population in India will equal the Hindu population by 2050, which is not so distant. One can understand the repercussions.
I would request all the like minded people Hindus or non-Hindus that India is stand together before things would go from bad to worse. Cast is the biggest enemy of Hindus, I would earnestly request BJP and Advani ji to take concrete steps to stop and erase the cast and creed practices.
Christianity is the silent killer, they get benefited out of the Ignorant and narrow minded cast practices. I personally feel that we should encourage Jew population in India, which would check the growth of the musilim and Christian population in India.
January 25th, 2009 at 8:21 pm
Nice post. Mark Tully says that he changed his beliefs after seeing India’s tolerance and secularism. I wonder why someone needs to change his belief for the sake of secularism. The idea of secularism is about having a pluralistic society that accommodates all beliefs. I have a post on secularism – interested readers can visit http://shahuls-world.blogspot.com/2009/01/secularism.html.
Regards,
Shahul
January 27th, 2009 at 3:36 pm
Advani Ji
I am ardent RSS supporter since my childhood, get frustrated when so called NGO make hue and cry for small incident affecting Muslim and christian , where they are when thousands pandits have been made homeless , they never take up such issues
Such pseudo secularist are more harmful for india then terrorist
They shall understand hindu plight only when their own member is affected
As far as i know BJP is for all they see all religions equally , not like Congress, RJD or Mulayam sing party who talk about minority for vote sake . they favour even terrorist for the sake of vote . please take up such issues more strongly
This blog is understood hardly less than 1% of population. pls arrange to send your views at least 50% of population Thanks and regards N.K.Lohia
January 29th, 2009 at 7:36 am
What’s one book that you really loved?
January 30th, 2009 at 6:25 am
Dear Sir,
I believe in your leadership and i hope You will continue to work for progress of India.
Please talk about need of the hour to eliminate corruption, good life to every citizen of India, poverty alleviation, Change to India, India as a great nation with bright future.
I request you to publish this web link in major news and media.
I was unaware of your blog. I missed many important discussions.
Please many many of us dont know about your blog. Spread this to as many as possible.
I will let my friends in India to know about you blog.
Wish you good luck….
Murugan
Jai Hind
January 31st, 2009 at 5:10 pm
i believe that in our country meaning of secularism is largely misunderstood. If one go through history of india, we will see no two religions have fought wars on issue of land or religion.
On the other hand we have so many conflics around the world which stems from religious extremism still continuing for centuries. Israel- palestin is an example.
That makes our country proud and stand apart.
One very intresting observation about USA which is considered secular state..and i also believe so, President Obama took oath on bible. We in India take oath on book of constitution.
I dont have problem if Oama taking oath on bible or our leaders taking oath by laying their hand on book of constitution or Koran or Gita, but real issue is;Obama was not criticised for his act, can we expect same generosity from our so called secular media if some leader from our country ask for Gita or Koran for taking oath. Have we understood the real meaning of being secular state.
February 1st, 2009 at 7:07 pm
Dear Adwaniji
This is right time to take issue of bangladeshi Hindu genocide in west bengal and Hindu tamils in tamilanadu. And this two state will be like another gujarat.
I am sure on base of Hindunism BJP will win.
Blogs donot work but strong campaign with Modiji is required.
Now I am looking you as a next PM and Modiji as a home minister of india.
Jai Hind
Vande Matram
February 2nd, 2009 at 11:10 pm
I want to express our strongest condemnation of the Hindutva attackers in Orissa & Karnataka and pledge our unconditional support to our Christian brethren that are being persecuted in India.
1947 was not the end of the freedom struggle in India, but the beginning of the end of dividing India on the basis of religion, caste, language, and creed.
As long as the spirit of Gandhi and Nehru live in the hearts of Indians, ALL INDIANS WILL REJECT HINDUTVA as a TALIBAN ideology filled with HATRED.
As Indian Americans, we reject the VHP, RSS, Bajrang Dal, Ram Sena with the same vigor that we reject all terrorist organizations in this world.
India never was, never is and never will be a Hindu nation.
India is for ALL Indians, be they Hindu, Christian, Muslim, or Sikh
India’s strength is in its diversity and we will not allow the RSS to divide India once again on the basis of religion.
February 2nd, 2009 at 11:12 pm
[CONTD]We say NO, To all who believe violence will triumph over peace.
We say NO, To all who want to rape our nuns and behead our priests.
We say NO, To all who want to impose Hindutva on us.
We say NO, To all who want to make India a Hindu nation.
We say NO, To all who want to create a fascist Aryan nation out of India.
We say NO, To all who want to Talibanize India.
We say NO, To all who call for Hindu Jihad.
We say NO, To all who want to oppress Indians based on Caste.
We say NO, To all who want to divide India as Hindu, Muslim, Christian.
NO, NO, NO, NO. We will NOT allow HINDUTVA to prevail in Free India. NEVER.
February 2nd, 2009 at 11:13 pm
[CONTD] We will ALL stand up for freedom and liberty as all men are created equal.
We shall overcome Hindutva ideology the same way we shall overcome all forms of fascism
We shall overcome RSS, VHP, Bajrang Dal, Shiv Sena, Ram Sena the same way we overcame the Nazi’s
We shall prosecute the Hindutva terrorists the same way we prosecute the Al Qaeda terrorists.
We shall overcome Evil with Good, just as Jesus prayed for his killers.
We shall overcome Radical Hindu Caste & Race Ideologies by embracing people of all races in a United & Diverse India.
We vehemently DISAGREE with Hindutva ideology and reject its imposition on us.
The LEADERS of Hindutva were all failures in India’s freedom struggle and will continue to be failures in Free India.
February 2nd, 2009 at 11:13 pm
To the fascist Hindutva leaders, we say,
“You are as misguided as the fascist people that you lead.
Do you think that Indians are NOT smart enough to choose their own faith?
Do NOT insult Indians by saying that you will decide our faith for us.”
God Bless India.
February 4th, 2009 at 3:15 am
Dear Sir,
We say yes for the leader, who can protect the Hindu culture and religion.
We say yes for the leader, Who can stop forcibly conversion and slow poison conversion from Hindu.
We say yes for the leader, who can say people leaving in Hindustan are Hindu. All Christian are HinduChristian. All Muslims are HinduMuslims.
CONTINUE………………………………………………..
February 4th, 2009 at 3:16 am
We say yes for the leader, who cannot forget the tears of raped and killed daughter and mother of kashmiri pandits.
http://www.kashmiri-pandit.org/sundry/genocide.html
We say yes for the leader, who cannot forget the Genocide of Hindu in Bangladesh. http://www.genocidebangladesh.org/
We say yes for leader, who cannot forget the Genocide of Hindu in Pakistan. http://www.hindunet.org/hindu_history/modern/hindu_bangla.html
(Percentage of Hindu in Bangladesh and Pakistan are 40% and 35% at time of partition . Now it gets reduce to 1% and 2% respectively. Most of all had got raped and killed and some are in refuge in other country. Other who don’t find any way gets converted to Muslims. WE DONOT WANT SITUATION LIKE KASHMIR, BANGLADESH AND PAKISTAN IN INDIA.)
CONTINUE……………………………………………..
February 4th, 2009 at 3:19 am
We say yes for the leader who cannot forget the tears of sister, wife, mother and father of people BURNS alive in GUJARAT(GODHRA).
We say yes for the leader who can protect temple(Hearts of Hindu) atleast in India.
( In last 15 years
79 Hindu temple have been demolished in Malaysia.
326 Hindu temple have been demolished in Bangladesh.
680 Hindu temple have been demolished in Pakistan,
40 Hindu temple have been demolished in KASHMIR INDIA(SHAME).
CONTINUE————————————————————
February 4th, 2009 at 3:20 am
We say yes for the leader who can protect Hindu saints like Shankaracharya, Shree Dayanand Panday,Shree Pragya Sing Thakur,Baba Ramdev,……………………………………………………………………………………………………….All.
We say yes for the leader, who can understand that in world
238 countries are Christian.
054 countries are Muslims.
001 Jews.
NOW ONLY ONE HINDU COUNTRY.
We say yes for the leader, who can SAVE India to became a Islamic country in next 30 years.
We say yes for The leader, who can save India from another partition.
Yes-yes-yes-yes-yes-yes…………………………….We want PM for this.
If you can then he could be you. But Never Congress,SP,CPM,NCP.
By Indian Swiss
Rayn
February 5th, 2009 at 9:55 am
Dear Advaniji,
All political parties parties , except the BJP are communal , and here’s why: Hindus have always been divided , the British first took full advantage of this, and then the Congress learnt from them!! So, despite of 80% of the the nation being Hindus, all non-BJP political parties pamper the remaining 20% in the name of minorities and call BJP communal.They try to grab this 20% , divide the balance 80% on caste lines , and still call BJP communal!!! This is ridiculous!! If the media are baised and managed by the congress, please float another channel to tell the truth to the Nation! And for heavens sake, Hindus plesae unite, because unity is prosperity. United we stand , divided we fall.
February 6th, 2009 at 8:54 am
Sir,
What is your personal position and the BJP’s position on the Shri Ram Sene and the issues they have raised — ‘pub culture’ and now their Valentines Day plan..ABVP activists supposedly support Ram Sene and their thought processes.. Do you? If yes, Why — can you elaborate?
–Rakesh
February 6th, 2009 at 1:24 pm
What a great article! I wish you would also work on the following:
1. Get liberal Christians and Muslims to understand and accept Hindutva.
2. Highlight the good things RSS does to improve their image.
3. Rein in Taliban-like outfits like Sri Rama Sena.
4. Religious conversions are the single biggest threat to India. Hopefully, with the economic problems, evangelism will slow down or stop. Discourage Christians and Muslims from building churches/mosques near major temples just for spite.
5. We should demand “Acceptance and Respect” and not “Tolerance” from other religions.
6. Work towards a common endowment code for all religions. Why should the govt. pay for building new churches or mosques when it does not get any money from them? Can you help publish how the temple funds are being used through RTI so we can see if they are used to fund other religions?
7. Poor Indian Citizens of all religions should get subsidy to visit their place of worship.
Thank you and good luck!
February 6th, 2009 at 5:30 pm
A presentation I have received crossing over from thousands of citizen title “Are you a Secularist?”. The contents are as under, which really compel to think !
ARE YOU A SECULARIST ?
Then please answer these questions for yourself ? There are nearly 52 Muslim countries. Show one Muslim country which provides Haj subsidy.Show one Muslim country where Hindus are extended the special rights that Muslims are accorded in India?
Show one country where the 85% majority craves for the indulgence of the 15% minority.
Show one Muslim country, which has a Non-Muslim as its President or Prime Minister.
Show one Mullah or Maulvi who has declared a ‘fatwa’ against terrorists.
Hindu-majority Maharashtra, Bihar, Kerala, Pondicherry , etc. have in the past elected Muslims as CM’s, …..
February 6th, 2009 at 5:34 pm
PART-2
Can you ever imagine a Hindu becoming the CM of Muslim - majority J&K?
In 1947, when India was partitioned, the Hindu population in Pakistan was about 24% ….Today it is not even 1%.
In 1947, the Hindu population in East Pakistan (now Bangladesh) was 30% …. Today it is about 7%.
What happened to the missing Hindus?
Do Hindus have human rights?
In contrast, in India, Muslim population has gone up from 10.4% in 1951 to about 14% today;
…whereas Hindu population has come down from 87.2% in 1951 to 85% in 1991.
Do you still think that Hindus are fundamentalists?
In India today Hindus are 85%. If Hindus are intolerant, how come Masjids and madrasas are thriving?
How come Muslims are offering Namaz on the road?
How come Muslims are proclaiming 5 times a day on loud speakers that there is no God except Allah?
When Hindus gave to Muslims 30% of Bharat for a song, why should
Hindus now beg for their sacred places at Ayodhya, Mathura And Kashi?
February 6th, 2009 at 5:36 pm
PART-3
Why Gandhiji objected to the decision of the cabinet and insisted that Somnath Temple should be reconstructed out of public fund, not government funds. When in January 1948 he pressurized Nehru and Patel to carry on renovation of the Mosques of Delhi at government expenses?
Why Gandhi supported Khilafat Movement (nothing to do with our freedom movement) and what in turn he got?
If Muslims & Christians are minorities in Maharashtra, UP, Bihar etc., are Hindus not minorities in J&K, Mizoram, Nagaland, Arunachal Pradesh, Meghalaya etc? Why are Hindus denied minority rights in these states?
When Haj pilgrims are given subsidy, why Hindu pilgrims to Amarnath, Sabarimalai & Kailash Mansarovar are taxed?
When Christian and Muslim schools can teach Bible and Quran,
…. Why Hindus cannot teach Gita or Ramayan in our schools
February 6th, 2009 at 5:37 pm
PART-4
Do you admit that Hindus do have problems that need to be recognized? Or do you think that those who call themselves Hindus are themselves The problem?
Why post - Godhra is blown out of proportion, when no-one talks of the ethnic cleansing of 4 lakh Hindus from Kashmir?
Do you consider that - Sanskrit is communal and Urdu is secular, Mandir is Communal and Masjid is Secular, Sadhu is Communal and Imam is secular, BJP is communal and Muslim league is Secular, Dr.Praveen Bhai
Togadia is ANTI-NATIONAL and Bhukari is Secular, VandeMatharam is communal and Allah-O-Akbar is secular, Shriman is communal and Mian is secular, Hinduism is Communal and Islam is Secular, Hindutva is
communal and Jihadism is secular, and at last, Bharat is communal and Italy is Secular
February 6th, 2009 at 5:40 pm
PART-5
Why Temple funds are spent for the welfare of Muslims and Christians, when they are free to spend their money in any way they like?
When uniform is made compulsory for school children, why there is no Uniform Civil Code for citizens?
In what way, J&K is different from Maharashtra, TamilNadu or UttarPradesh, to have Article 370?
Abdul Rehman Antuley was made a trustee of the famous Siddhi Vinayak
Temple in Prabhadevi, Mumbai ….Can a Hindu - say Mulayam or Laloo – ever become a trustee of a Masjid or Madrasa
Dr. Praveen bhai Togadia has been arrested many times on flimsy grounds.
Has the Shahi Imam of Jama Masjid, Delhi, Ahmed Bhukari been arrested for claiming to be an ISI agent and advocating partition of Bharat?
February 6th, 2009 at 5:41 pm
PART-6
A Muslim President, A Hindu Prime Minister and a Christian Defence Minister run the affairs of the nation with a unity of purpose.
Can this happen anywhere, except in a HINDU NATION - BHARATH?
JAI HIND !!!
“Hinduism is not a religion it is a way of life.
- Swami Vivekananda
I THOUGHT TO SHARE THIS WITH ALL WHO BELIEVE IN SECULARISM THEY MUST KNOW OUR COUNTRY AND ITS TRUE SECULARISM.
February 10th, 2009 at 4:18 pm
Let the people enjoy the freedom of their heritage and continue to maintain their nobler belief that all paths are leading to the same destination. Let the singularity of truth plurality of vision and diversity of belief prevail for the growth, development and sustenance of mankind.
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February 11th, 2009 at 4:07 pm
Hi really feel secularism has become a lame excuse to appease the various factions to garner votes….I see it every day here..reservations are made, slums are regularised, illegal construction/structures are not demolished, footpaths become homes, immmigrats get ration cards, arms and ammunations come and disappear in flash in slums….and if you dare say anything you are labelled a COMMUNAL by the SECULARS….I fail to udnerstand that there is n development, people go on to say there are no creamy layers in OBC’s, the family in the slum is still there and so will the next generation..why so that someday some politician will come and regularise his slum and make him eligible for a SRA house…then what..that house goes up on rent and our family moves on the next slum sponsored by the same politician!!!!
February 11th, 2009 at 4:08 pm
contd…So reallly secularism is nothing but appeasement as per the esteemed Congress, SP, RPI, BSP, NCP and all!!! So I wont be surprised very soon our BEST buses will have religion based seats, separate seats for boys and girls (no sitting next to each other), there will be separate schools, colleges in the name of religion based reservation….GOD SAVE US……
In this context I urge all reading this to realise that the BJP is not communal….being proud of ones religion is not communal…..a person has can perform an Arti on and attend an Iftaar meet with equal pride…thats secularism….lets promot real secularism and expose the workings of our narrow minded politicials who are tattering the social fabric of the country beyond repair
February 11th, 2009 at 6:59 pm
The entire media pounce on the BJP in the name of secularism when it comes to “Gujarat” and “Godhra”. I am against violence of any kind, but just imagine this: Haj pilgrims are returning back home my train , in a muslim country. When they reach a particular station, minority Hindus lock the wagon doors on the outside, pour kerosene and burn the pilgrims alive.Do you think a single Hindu would be left alive in that country?
I repeat that I am against violence , but the media conveniently ignores the trigger or root cause which flared up the entire incident. The minority community has been intentionally left uneducated by the Congress since independence and pampered for votes!If you want minorities to really be part of the mainstream, EDUCATE THEM!!
February 12th, 2009 at 9:16 pm
Hello Mr.Advaniji,
Your political agenda , the so called Hindutva and the Ram temple has driven your uneducated , jobless supporters completely mad. They have gone to the extent of beating up women and all sorts of other things. This campaign of hate in the name of Lord Rama, can only be a disaster for the people of India, both hindus and muslims. Muslims will feel cornered and hindus also wont benefit from your party ideologies. Many hindus are now supporting it, but have already got a glimpse of how it would be if BJP comes to power , courtesy the recent happenings in Karnataka. Without doubt ,BJP is getting very popular by the day. But my sincere request is to use a different plank for this elections, not the relegious one. BJP victory is guaranteed, but please bring back peace..Ram temple agenda will be a distater for all of us.
February 13th, 2009 at 2:10 pm
Its really disappointing that BJP has taken religion again to win votes. This is not a winning horse. People have come out of the euphoria of religious excellence over governance. Peole have understood that when you mix politics with religion it really haunts them. Recent assembly elections results have clearly shown people have voted on the grounds of developements and good governance. BJP has to come out with plans to develop economy, agriculture and security. Building temple for Ram is not what people look from BJP.
February 14th, 2009 at 1:15 am
Dear Advani Ji,
I appriciate your working with this blog. I really believe in indian democracy and freedom for every religion. But I cannot understand why we are fighting for Ram Mandir in Ayodhya. We can make it anywhere in Ayodhya. We should forget this issue because no God in any religion want voilence even Ram also.
February 14th, 2009 at 4:31 pm
india is a secular country? if it is secular county implement common civil code.
why laws are on the basis of relegion ex: hindu amrriage act, muslim personal law.
minorities as vote banks. majority people are second class citizens?
as long as political parties dont changes the views country will not develop.
February 14th, 2009 at 5:01 pm
Respected Sir Shree Advaniji
The blog content has been excellent and I am sure you are the person who will take India really to 21st Century.
May I suggest dropping of Religious promises etc from the election compaign and instead in these advers times Economic agenda must be given top priority ,after all it was your govenment which brought India back on rails five years back with massive projects of road constructions under golden quadrilateral and India Shining program and there was no major Economic scam like in the present govenance And as far as the religion is considered let all Indians follow one religion on Indianness of Satymev Jayate and thereafter let them choose their own deity or place of worship.Why should the state or a party interfere in the personal choices religionj,morality,color caste and creed .the state has major job of govenance .I am confident under your able leadership India will not be devide on these lines and a paradim shift will take place.
February 16th, 2009 at 7:27 pm
secular!!!! secular dictionary meaning is.. Believing Worldly or Mundane things…it does’t pertain to eccelestial worlds or beleifs which are irrational. Unbiased property of mind to beleive what you look and and seeing is believing. Unfortunately our nationalist leader took in sense of tolerance of all religions. No religion or any thing which is not mundane and which is a belief and basing on that if it is decided its funny. Big Big unfortunate and sorry state of affairs is no one has defined the world religion even in our constitution . And our great media also considers the old political thought as envisaged by old gandhijis and nehrus ideas of expression. Religion is a belief thats all. next comment continues…..
February 17th, 2009 at 6:48 am
Advani ji,
I hope you would have taken the issues of “Country First” as election agenda instead of taking Ram Mandir. I know it is our symbol of identity and very close to our heart, however “Country First” agenda will solve this crisis itself in coming times.
Please please do something!!!!!!!
February 17th, 2009 at 9:21 am
Attn Joeantony…
Hi in continuation to your post ..its a point to note that with the BJP atlease we have a clear agenda ahead and not be surprised with hidden agendas…what they meant was that if the BJP wins a clear majority it is a cause close to the heart (and it should be)…..developement, governance and security comes hand in hand with a NDA government as demonstrated in the previous term of power they had. This is only the beginning…actually Congress seems to be scoring self goals in this regard, the splatter of “Bharat Nirman” and related ads on TV, Radio and prints make one laugh at the self congratulatory tone and empty results!!!
At at time when projets should be at a completion stage our heros are announcing stone laying!! Public to mama bananeka mast tareka hai..o project completed but foundation stone getting laid three months before election….serously are we that DUMB!!!
February 17th, 2009 at 9:48 am
Advaniji,URjus abt only persn nation cud possbly b entrustd2.WudUnot like2thus make readng of hmble contrbutn as under?SinceUaccpt only1000charactrs,Umay like2ask4the rest.Ayodhya a bonded or bonding solution?Much has bn said and writtn by religious zealots incl maulvis,mahants,Imams&Shankarachryas,a grt deal’s bn conjured up by poltcians&loads ‘ve bn unleashed by media whch only has sot2tease a festering sore of man on strt.Is issue so intractble,so complx& so unyieldng that eludes a honourble soln4all?2find soln,1has2questn misgivings we hrbour abt religous practces of othrs.1needs2discard repugnance1nurses4a fellow being born in2a diffrent faith2win over Brahmin,Shudra,Shia orSunni 2the side of Almghty,ther bng no other side.What if Prophet Mohd was born in2 a Christian orChrist in2 aHindu household?Is1self not aHindu,Muslim orChristian because 1’s parents gave birth2them as such?How cramped Hindu God wud be that barely controls a hundredth fraction of our small little planet?
February 20th, 2009 at 3:18 pm
Dear Advaniji,
Namaste! I completely agree with the views on secularism as expressed by you and Mark Tully. India has proved, almost over the entire history of civilisation, that secularism and pluralism are probably the most important survival mantras for civil society. This is demonstrated, on a daily basis, by the relative stability of our society and the internal clashes of societies that have embraced theocracy and the inability of many such societies to cope up with the emerging boarderless world. Average Indians look up to tall leaders like you, who can think beyond and see the big picture, to articulate this genome of India to us as well as to the world. Good luck for the elections!!!
February 22nd, 2009 at 10:06 pm
My Indo-Pak Family…My Veer Zara Story - Part 1
Dear Advaniji
I am an honest, God fearing, law abiding citizen of India. Kindly read my Veer Zara story and give me your advice. Thanks.
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Yes. I wanted to speak out on this, to the world.
I have been speaking to myself for the past 17 years.
Not a single day, i have gone to bed without speaking to myself on this, in the past 17 years.
I could not find an answer.
I have been asking God to give me an answer. I still hope, He will not let me down.
Now, i will speak out on this, to the world.
I am sure, i am not alone.
Like me, thousands are waiting to speak.
I will speak on their behalf.
I will tell my story, to the world.
It was a typical arranged marriage. Her Indian grand mother living in our neighbourhood, one day in 1991, brought her Pakistani grand daughter’s photograph to my home, showed my parents and proposed the alliance…..cotnd part 2
February 22nd, 2009 at 10:09 pm
My Indo-Pak Family…My Veer Zara Story - Part 2
My photograph and message went back to her parents, living in a Gulf country. The strange photo chemistry worked. They all came, except the girl, we all liked each other and finally the marriage was held in that Gulf country, registered in the court and we were legally declared and registered on our respective passports by our embassies as husband and wife.
Little we realised that there are unwritten taboos between India and Pakistan.
Little we realised that we can NOT simply assume that we are just humanbeings, created by God.
Little we realised that we can not simplify things. We can not take things for granted.
Little we realised that we are breaking the “holy code of conduct” written on our behalf by Jinnah, Gandhi and Nehru.
Little we realsied that we belong to born enemies.…..cotnd part 3
February 22nd, 2009 at 10:11 pm
My Indo-Pak Family…My Veer Zara Story - Part 3
Little we realised that we are supposed to hate each other.
Little we realised that there is an invisible wall, greater than the great wall of China and mightier than the mightiest is standing between us.
Since then we are living in Gulf. In the past 17 years, I have never visited Pakistan. She had visited my home in India, just 2 times in the past 17 years. The fear of the “unknown” is haunting us.
I wonder how many readers of this sad story, have Hindu/Muslim/Sikh families across the border?. How many of them have found their spouse or sweet heart across the border? Can they understand the anguish and pain of such divided hearts and millions of divided families?.
We are told that there can only be either black or white. Every one says that India and Pakistan are like south pole and north pole. But, we can NOT choose one over the other. We love both and we need both. .…..cotnd part 4
February 22nd, 2009 at 10:14 pm
My Indo-Pak Family…My Veer Zara Story - Part 4
The “better half” of us, is holding either an Indian or Pakistani identity. In my case, my children hold Indian identity. We love our nation and will NEVER giveup this identity. But we can NOT hate each other’s homeland, as expected by our homeland.
We have all the greatest icons of love. Taj Mahal, Laila-Majnu and what not?. But in reality, we prefer to watch them from a distance. We are living in the non existing Indo-Pak world, which REALLY existed before 1947. We are a living anachronism. We are living Veer-Zara’s.
We are a living tragedy, no one wants to listen or talk about including our own selves.
But i have one answer. If i were reborn and God gives me another chance to decide, I WILL DO IT AGAIN.
Will she do it again…?. I do not want to ask.
My advice to others - NEVER do it..…..contd part 5
February 22nd, 2009 at 10:16 pm
My Indo-Pak Family…My Veer Zara Story - Part 5
The question i would like to ask is:
Is it possible for me to settle with my family in India, without changing my wife’s Pakistani nationality?. She will never change it and i have no right even to talk about that. I respect her decision.
My constitution does not prohibit marriages between Indian and Pakistani nationals.
My constitution does not take away my right to work, study, practice my profession ,serve my nation and pursue better life because my spouse is a Pakistani national.
My constitution gives me full guarantee and freedom to marry whom i like and live peacefully in my nation.
It’s all too good in paper but in reality looks like a nightmare.
I do not know, what others think about me?.
I do not know, what my friends think about me?.
I do not know, what my NATION thinks about me?….contd part 6
February 22nd, 2009 at 10:19 pm
My Indo-Pak Family…My Veer Zara Story - Part 6 - End
I do not know, what my mom, brother, sisters and relatives think about me?
I do not know, what my wife, who trusted me, thinks about me?
I do not know, what my children will think about me?
I do not know, what YOU think about me?
For some strange reason, i feel very light today.
I think, i can sleep well today.
Even i can CRY well today.
Is there a solution for such “undivided and indivisible” Indo-Pak families?.
What is our crime?. Do we have a place on this earth to live ?.
February 23rd, 2009 at 7:31 pm
Ayodhya a bonded or bonding solution? Connect to Pt1 dated Feb 17.additional 1000characters. Wars fought for supremacy that uncompromising Moslem marauders brought upon natives of yore saw most return to their lands due to hostile climate, leaving in place those baptized into their faith who today fail to foresee untold miseries let loose upon their own vanquished ancestors due to prolonged lapse of memory and who they do no longer themselves unfortunately identify with, wishing to relive the pristine glory of medieval period. Resurgent Hindus on their part with freedom in their lap without blood-shed, seem to behave as newer war lords no more weighed down under the piety and mysticism that they identified with, all this while.Solution is possible if only a religion as a solute has the impulsion to dissolve itself into a universal solvent that has power to embrace any other solute to dissolution. .Dr. SC Talwar
February 23rd, 2009 at 7:34 pm
Ayodhya Pt3 Cont.
Each of such solutes that lack power to dissolve itself along with all other solutes into the same solution naturally throws up a blemished response. Would we therefore be wise as Hindus to confine the boundless powers of Ishwar as embodied in Lord Rama to a supposed underside of Ayodhya within which other solutes fail to dissolve? Those flogging Janambhoomi as a vanished toy that our beleaguered ancestors could not clasp to enliven pristine glory of ancient era need to look into cosmos to find Him. And does the Allah, as a solvent into which one such solute of Islam alone dissolves, possess powers enough to dissolve such other solutes to a solution?
February 23rd, 2009 at 7:38 pm
Ayodhya Pt4 Cont. It is not usual that a difference of opinion within one’s household would bring the erring couple to divorce. Can any sane person in today’s global hamlet continue living in a watertight compartment based on a singular sect or faith without compassion for other humans persuading them to attain Almighty only as he or she perceives? World has indeed been reduced to a village, what is yet amazing is that the same entity that the Almighty happens to be, continues to be viewed with perspectives so wide apart and modes so varied in attainment.
(Cast away your intransigence to incarcerate within your devout precepts the one who makes as many suns shine as are drops in your deep seas and as many earths habitable as are atoms on your lonely earth, and make the time timeless and space infinite for yee to comprehend, come unto Him child, and unshackle mind from the crevice of your practice to attain salvation. Dr. SC Talwar
February 23rd, 2009 at 7:55 pm
Ayodhya Pt5. Cont.(….How blissful could yee be when vision deserts your conscience while confining Almighty within folds of Allah, Ishwar, God while they happen to be a microcosm of a tiny existence within ‘His’ mind, known by gender yee stand acquainted with, names as infinite, by infinite animates in an infinite universe that yee cannot fathom given the conscious that has been bestowed upon yee.) The need of the hour therefore is to hoist an architectural marvel that is bonded as a singular edifice with a spectacular facade, a new expression of the world, with different dominating religious works of art, integrated within its core into a massive momentous central dome of brotherhood, to symbolise converging of the entire world into a global village. The creation would bring visitors from the world over to its new sanctum sanctorum. Dr. SC Talwar
February 23rd, 2009 at 7:58 pm
Ayodhya. Last part. While its Masjid segment could face Mecca, the lot of Mandir could face the Sun. Underneath such an exterior manifestation, one could craft a massive inter-communicative theological hub of scholastic dimensions that could draw the intelligentsia and religious scholars from the entire globe to study and spawn new soldiers of The Almighty. Are we ready to become the proud owners of such an edifice that can be called the newest wonder of the world?
Can all those strident voices for once abandon archaic standpoint and pull themselves out of the present impasse to rise to reconciliation as just about the only solution?( Sorry2 break it 2 fit into 1000Characters) Dr. SC Talwar
February 25th, 2009 at 10:34 pm
Gita + Quran …. Absolute Peace - Part 1
I was trying to find an answer for my inner struggle
Who am i ?.
Why do i conflict with myself?
Am i at peace with myself?.
Am i trying to break out of the universal truth?
Am i scared? ; Of whom? ; Of what? ; Why ?
Where am i running towards?
How long will i run?
What will happen, if i stop?
I searched deep and deeper in me. I realised that i am trying to tell something to the world. It may not be very interesting for others but never the less, let me speak out. I did it finally, through my previous Veer-Zara story blog. I have been contemplating to publish it for atleast 2 years and wanted to speak out for the past 17 years. Finally I came out.
February 25th, 2009 at 10:37 pm
Gita + Quran …. Absolute Peace - Part 2 - End
If you read all my blogs preceding my Veer-Zara story (I have posted my Veer Zara story above here), you will realise that it was a rant and cry out of my own helplessness. Finally, i realised that the child in me is crying to tell this story to the world. I am sorry, if someone is hurt.
I have started reading Quran and Gita after my morning namaaz and i feel absolute peace. Now i have lost my interest in digging the history. I feel, it is the will of God and i am moving towards sprituality.
Peace and God bless.
February 25th, 2009 at 10:44 pm
@ doctortalwar
“…While its Masjid segment could face Mecca, the lot of Mandir could face the Sun…”.
Amazing proposition. Our strength is non violence. Indians command very high respect every where, because they are basically humble, self respecting and peace loving. Today, the world is in a turmoil. Every one had seen the might but they don’t accept it whole heartedly. The people of the subcontinent are eagerly looking for a peaceful leadership to emerge. I think, India alone has that capability. What’s wrong if we capture the world by conquering the hearts?.
February 25th, 2009 at 11:51 pm
Advaniji, RSS, VHP, Muslim ulemas and Dar Ul Uloom should hold a conference: Part 1/2
Indian Muslims have got a serious responsibility in national integration and nation building. An eye for an eye, will make the whole nation blind. Congress has crippled the nation. Muslims were brain washed, moulded as vote banks, fed on pseudo secularism, jackass’ed with Haj subsidies, symbolism, appeasement, Sachar comittee etc. Who broke this cycle?. Who breathed a new life into this dead, stale democracy?. Can’t we see the audacity of Nehru-Gandhi dynasty, which presumes that the post of PM is reserved for their family ?.
It was nothing less than a second freedom struggle. It was painful. What is the way forward now?. Are, we Indian Muslims going to stand on sidelines, let the bus go again and do the same old chest beating for ever ?.
February 25th, 2009 at 11:59 pm
Advaniji, RSS, VHP, Muslim ulemas and Dar Ul Uloom should hold a conference: Part 2/2
Are we still believing that a Muslim leader is going to emerge from the sky and bail us out ?. Even if a Muslim becomes a PM of India, NOTHING will change for us.
I am a great admirer of Dr.Kalam. But, could he open his mouth on Muslims ?. Unless, we earn our position, we will NEVER be able to speak out. I think, it’s better to sit across the table and draw a master plan in the national interest. Any Muslim specific demand will fail. Just impossible and forget it. Let, we Muslims, think in national interest. Let us participate as dynamic leaders and NOT cut a sorry face, waiting for some doles at the end of the food chain. Let us change.
I request Advaniji, to invite Muslim ulemas and Dar Ul Uloom scholars for a meeting. It is impossible for Muslims to invite Advaniji for a discussion.
February 26th, 2009 at 1:28 pm
Sanatana Dharma and Islam: Part 1/2
OM POORNAMADAH POORNAMIDAM
POORNAAT POORNAMUDACHYATE
POORNASYA POORNAMAADAAYA
POORNAMEVAAVASHISHYATE
OM SHANTI SHANTI SHANTIH
Translation:
THAT IS WHOLE
THIS IS ALSO WHOLE
FROM THAT WHOLE
THIS WHOLE HAS COME OUT
BUT EVEN THOUGH THIS WHOLE HAS COME
OUT OF THAT WHOLE
YET THAT WHOLE REMAINS WHOLE ONLY
Kafir, Ahimsa and Fatwa: Let us see the precedence and example set by Prophet Muhammed(PBUH):
Kafir:
Prophet’s(PBUH) own uncle, Abu Talib, who brought him up and protected him from all those enemies who did not believe him, never accepted Islam till his last breath and died as “Kaafir”, as per the definition of the so called Islamic scholars.
Prophet(PBUH) respected his decision, served him in his death bed and ensured that his funeral was performed as per his faith. Islamic scholars will NEVER mention this.
February 26th, 2009 at 1:37 pm
Sanatana Dharma and Islam: Part 2/3
Ahimsa / Non-Violence:
There was a old lady who use to throw rubbish on Prophet (PBUH) whenever he went past her home. One day, she did not throw rubbish and Prophet (PBUH) was surprised and found that she was ill. He went inside her house and enquired if he could be of any help for her. He offered kind words and helped her with whatever was possible. The old lady cried and became a great
admirer of Prophet (PBUH).
We must encourage others to openly criticise us and get as much happiness as possible by insulting our religion. In turn, we must say “Peace be upon you and God bless”.
February 26th, 2009 at 1:42 pm
Sanatana Dharma and Islam: Part 3/3 - End
Fatwa:
Fatwa is an Unislamic practice. There is NOT a single incidence in the entire life of Prophet(PBUH) that he ever issued a fatwa on others who insulted him and Islam. If so, where from these mullahs have picked up this culture ?. It was an age old practice of persian high priests in their temple and followed by ayathollas till today.
There is no concept of high priest in Islam. Our Prophet(PBUH) has clearly told in his last sermon “hajjatul wida”, that he was just a messenger of Allah and nothing more. Let people follow his message and not the messenger.
Also, instead of asking others to understand Islam, we must take some efforts to understand the great religion like Hinduism. I did not find much difference between the essence of Quran ,Gita and the eternal truth Sanatana Dharma.
February 26th, 2009 at 5:07 pm
Dear Sir,
I saw whole blog but no response from your side on any comment. Please interact with us, so that we can discuss more.
I can better understand you are a busy personality but you should give some time to your bloag because i have many expectation from this blog communication like Amitabh Bachachan Blog.
You are my political ideal thats why i am expecting your interaction.
One more thing please coordinate with you technical team because blog is too slow.
February 26th, 2009 at 6:39 pm
Sir, I really liked this post.
Looking forward to your future posts.
WISH BJP COMES TO POWER THIS YEAR
February 26th, 2009 at 8:20 pm
Dear Alamsha
What you mentioned about Dr. APJ Kalam about his not opening mouths about Muslims in particular is precisely the kind of Muslim leaders we need today. One that does not differentiate between us by segregating us as Hindus, Muslims, SCs, ST,s OBCs, Dalits, etc etc…..He like a true statesman always emphasised on the right things….education, vision and a will to lead India…he never differentiated between school children on basis on caste, creed etc while adressing them and making them develop a vision for India….Presisely the person we need….a person who sees us as INDIANS
And yes I completely agree to you point that any Muslim specific demand would not work…or rather on a broader level any divisive level specific demand would further strain our already divided country
February 27th, 2009 at 7:58 am
Dear Advaniji
Pranam and Assslamu Alaikum (Peace be upon you).
In order to get a better insight into this “clash of civilisations”, i would like to ask these 2 questions to Advaniji.
1. What is the religion of God ?
2. Should one has to be a Muslim, as per Islam, in order to enter Jannah (Paradise) ?.
I am a Muslim. I have been asking these 2 questions to several Muslim friends and Ulemas but untill today i never got a clear reply.
But almost every non Muslim i have asked, they almost immediately answered that God has no religion and every good human will enter Jannah (Paradise), irrespective of religion.
I wonder why a non Muslim has the magnanimity to immediately accept that humanity supercedes his own religion?.
Will a Muslim accept that Humanity is better than Islam?.
What’s YOUR answer, Advaniji, for the above 2 questions ?.
February 27th, 2009 at 7:32 pm
respected sir,
i have spent my youth in SHAKHA,i simply believe that only thing which is dividing Hindu is there cast system.we are all hindu but still we treat other inferior because of this only Hindu convert in Muslim n Christanity.Swami vivekanand said when one Hindu convert its religion not only we lost a member but we also increase our one enemy. Its very sad in india the Hindu rashtra it is called fanatic to talk about Hindu religion.we are called extremist if we talk about hinduism.now the definition of secularism is anti hindu,which all the other parties following religiously.it is very unfortunate that BJP the party with hindu agenda dropped that once they got in power.
I request advani ji please dont drop the name of shri ram due to which they came in existence and follow theie agenda religiously.
JAI SHARI RAM
February 27th, 2009 at 10:52 pm
Dear Prasun
I 100% agree with you that we need leaders who raise above race, religion, caste and region. In fact, India’s leadership should bring peace and better life for the entire subcontinent.
February 27th, 2009 at 11:27 pm
My Prasadam after namaaz: Part 1/2
We are a nation of 1.2 billion people and we need to coexist with each other. The best part of being an Indian Muslims is, his life can not be dictated by fatwas and hudood laws. If any Mullah gives fatwa, it will be a real “holy joke” and in turn we can give them 10 counter fatwas. No one can touch us. This can happen only in my country and i thoroughly enjoy this freedom.
Having said this, i will not deny the fact that i am one among those 250 million Muslims who feel descriminated by the political establishment and the ruling class. But, look at the richness and power of the diversity and i will not giveup this privilege at any cost. I can’t imagine my life without Hinduism and Hindus and it is very close to my heart.
February 27th, 2009 at 11:30 pm
I cherish those days as a child, in 70’s, we use to finish our evening Namaz and run to the nearby Hindu temple with our skull cap to collect those delicious “Prasadam” from the Iyer. My Masjid and Namaz would always be incomplete without those Mandir and Bhajans.
Of course, no one taught me “secularism” when i was a child.
February 27th, 2009 at 11:39 pm
Humanity knows no barriers:
I would like to share an unforgettable experience happened to me, 15 years back. I was participating in a play as part of a cultural event and my role was that of a Tamil Brahmin priest. The play writer and director, Mr.Iyer, took the responsibility of my costumes and i was dressedup and waiting for the play to start. Suddenly, a 50+ aunty came near, inspected me closely and commented “he looks like small Sankaracharya but something is missing”. The play director Mr.Iyer heard this comment, came and looked at me for a moment and in a flash he removed his “poonul” (a sacred thread worn across the body by Brahmins) and put it across me. Now that aunty reacted in a high pitch by screaming “sooper”.
When the time came for me to return the “poonul”, i realised that i have developed a charm for the sacred thread and asked Mr.Iyer, if i can keep it with me. He hesitated for a moment, smiled, tapped on my shoulders and took it back.
February 28th, 2009 at 12:06 am
Image of India:
We Indian Muslims should be thankful that we are fortunate to be born as citizens of a great nation India. One should travel worldwide and see the kind of respect and welcome smile we get from the foreign immigration. Even most of the Pakistanis hold Indians in very high esteem. Just see the reaction of any immigration officer in Europe, London, US etc towards some one holding a passport from an Islamic country, especially Pakistan, you will realise the difference. Who built this good image and respect for us ?. It’s because of Hindus.
If God wants to recreate me and gives me a choice to choose my country, i will definitely choose India, again. The rest i will leave it to your imagination.
February 28th, 2009 at 11:16 am
इंदिरा गांधी की मृत्यु के बाद हुए चुनाव में जब अटलजी स्वयं ग्वालियर से चुनाव हार गए थे, तब भाजपा अध्यक्ष होने के नाते कुलदीप ने अटलजी को एक लंवा विश्लेषणात्मक पत्र लिखा था, जिसमें उन कारणों को गिनाया गया था, जिसकी बदौलत पार्टी को केवल दो सीटों से ही संतोष करना पड़ा था। लोगों के जेहन में यह बात अवश्य आएगी कि क्यों कुलदीप इस बात को महत्व देते हैं कि उनकी वजह से ही अटलजी प्रधानमंत्री बने? इसकी तारीख पर गौर किया जाना सबसे जरूरी है, 19 मार्च 1985 को कुलदीप द्वारा अजमेर से लिखे गए पत्र के ठीक 13 साल बाद यानी 19 मार्च 1998 को अटलजी ने प्रधानमंत्री पद की शपथ ली। यह वह शपथ थी, जिसके बाद 13 महीने तक उन्होंने शासन किया
पहले छद्म धर्मनिरपेक्षता थी ही नहीं
कुलदीप के पत्र का जवाब देते हुए अटलजी ने अपने पत्र में कहा कि जहां तक सेक्यूलर होने का सवाल है, जनसंघ और भाजपा की नीतियों में कोई अंतर नहीं है। इस समय तक भाजपा के शब्दकोश में छद्म धर्मनिरपेक्षता जैसा कोई शब्द था ही नहीं,। अपने पत्र के माध्यम से कुलदीप ने जब इस बाबद सवाल किया तो ही छद्म धर्मनिरपेक्षता उपजा और कांग्रेस पर हमला बोला गया।
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:38 am
Was browsing through the papers a couple of days earlier….now SP has decided to field Arun Gawli as a Lok Sabha candidate…RJD and SP have enough tainted MP’s in their parties, BSP is running amok with the Goonda politics in UP, all of them will ditch the Congress at the first wiff of power for their ambitious heads ( I cant call them leaders)…a humble request..dont let anyone of them even near the NDA….these tainted parties will tarnish the clean image the NDA enjoys in our eyes….Yes there should be political untouchability and these are the parties that should be labelled as Political Untouchables..
March 2nd, 2009 at 12:42 pm
Allah says in Quran that He is the creator of all the universes. If i say that i am superior or more closer to Allah because i have accepted the message of Prophet Muhammed, then who created others?. Also Allah says in Quran that He had sent 124,000 Prophets to the mankind. I am sure all were NOT sent to Saudi Arabia. In my opinion, i consider Krishna, Ram, and Budha also are Prophets of Allah.
I strongly believe Mahabharatha is true and it happened. But it doesn’t mean, go and knock down all the Mosques in India and unleash violence. Having said this, i will also say that despite all the descrimination and alienation, Indian Muslims have benefited a lot from Hinduism and they have a moral responsibility to return it back.
I have adopted “Karnan” as my second name from the name of my hero Karnan in Mahabharatha. If i were a multi-millionaire, Insha Allah i will construct a beautiful blue colour Krishna temple and dedicate it for my nation.
March 4th, 2009 at 1:52 pm
Liquidate Pakistan !!. - Part 1 :
Pakistan has become a threat for regional peace and stability. The International community should join and liquidate this nation. World leaders should hold an emergency meeting on this regard and draft a master plan to jointly takeover and manage Pakistan by a team of good administrators.
In fact, the name Pakistan should be droped and should be called by some other name. This is the only way to bailout the life of 180 million people of Pakistan and save this region from nukes and unimaginable disaster.
This can be done with the will and cooperation of the people of Pakistan. It is NOT their fault but unfortunately things have gone horribly wrong and out of control. Their leadership has failed.
My sympathies to the people of Pakistan but it is better to live a peaceful life in their own homes by a different name under different leadership instead of dying for peace.
…cotnd Part 2
March 4th, 2009 at 1:57 pm
Liquidate Pakistan !!. - Part 2 :
Reality and alternative proposition:
In reality is it is NOT going to be that easy. In fact, China will NOT allow this to happen and it will upset the internal balance in India. Presence of a sanitised conglomeration of colonial powers as managers in the neighbourhood, will create a civil war inside India. Because, Indian military will loose it’s purpose and may get disillusioned at it’s own powerlessness.
The new managers of Pakistan will be Saudi Arabia, US, Europe and the Pakistani elites with access to huge funds. Definitely, rule nr.1 would be to keep India away from this team. Naturally, the new team does not want more hands in it’s share of the pie.
…cotnd Part 3
March 4th, 2009 at 2:00 pm
Liquidate Pakistan !!. - Part 3 : End.
In fact the entire SAARC region, except India, will gravitate towards this new power centre and India will become an easy target for this new team to take away the cream of the cake from this region and leave the rest in a state of perpetual unrest to expand further deeper into south-east asia.
Confederation of SAARC countries:
A confederation of SAARC countries is the only feasible comprehensive solution as proposed by LK Advaniji, 10 years back. This is the only acceptable answer for all the forces, including Kashmir and LTTE.
No Doubt, Mr. LK Advaniji is a great visionary.
March 4th, 2009 at 4:33 pm
Its strange to hear ADVANI/BJP talking of ’secularism’…… when the party itself espouses ‘hindutva’ and always supports HINDUS! If BJP in any way was a secular party, why think of building only Ram Temple? WHy not a Mosque, or Gurudwara? BJP is trying to mislead the nation by tagging itself a secular party… ITS A ’sheer’ SHAME on part of BJP!!
From
Arnob Dey,
(a hindu, muslim, sikh, parsi, etc.)
WHICH RELIGION ARE U ADVANIJI?………………………
March 4th, 2009 at 6:36 pm
Great Post. I wanted to make an important point. Sanatan Dharma has many Lords, Lord Ram is one of them. However the BJP must show respect to Shri Krishna also because only with Lord Krishna’s wisdom and Arjuna’s ability can the BJP win. Much like Shri Advani and Shri Narendra Modi. Also the other Lords must also be shown their due respect. Like Lord Shiv, Devi and Ganapati. Only by this can the BJP be a complete party and win all hearts.
There is no dearth of issues for the BJP. It must, however project these to the people. If everyone was 100 percent logical then BJP would get 100 percent votes. However people are emotional and the Congress knows how to pull these strings. If the logic of voting for the best party can be presented to the people with the correct emotion then the BJP will win.
March 14th, 2009 at 1:00 am
Sir,
I’m extremly pleased to see your blog and get your pespective on various subject and political campaign details
I’m a well wisher of BJP and truly believe that BJP is the only political party which can do justice to majority and minority. All other parties are interested on dividing majority and taking to get maximum share of minority and whoever do this in the best possible way gets into power.
I would request you address the panic striken nation as unemployment is growing to new heights and govt is a total failure in protecting jobs or reviving economy. If
March 14th, 2009 at 1:28 am
Sir,
I’m extremly pleased to see your blog and get your pespective on various subjects.I truly believe that BJP is the only political party which can do justice to majority and minority.I would request you address the panic striken nation as unemployment is growing to new heights and govt is a total failure in protecting jobs or reviving economy. If you are able to address both sections it will be a big morale booster.
This should be done as lakhs and lakhs of people who lost their jobs are not organized.. This includes blue collers and white collars.Approximatly 15 lakhs might have lost their jobs in last 5 months.
I’ve experienced this.I was with Times of India and was laid off 2 months back.This was done inspite of registering profits for last qtr.17% has been laid offs across groups
Wishing you all Success
March 15th, 2009 at 7:01 am
Dear Mr Advani
I sincerely pray I dont have to call you Prime Minister L.K.Advani. I will tell you the reasons for my prayer. First let me introduce myself. I am a HINDU (Thats how YOU would like to address me else I would have called myself an INDIAN), 24 years of age. The youth of the country whom everyone wants to target and which is the future of my INDIA. But take one thing from me Sir, I as an Indian would never give reins of this country to some party or a person who is communal in nature, whose claim to fame are riots and in every state that it rules faces communal tension. Now you will say I am too young, what do I know! I will prove my point of your being of communal mindset from just 2 points.
1. On your website, under the list of issues you have Hindu reforms. Why do you need to address a religion separately? What kind of vote bank are you trying to impress. And under the section of Indian Muslim just a stanza asking them to join you.
Contd PART 2
March 15th, 2009 at 7:03 am
Part 2:
First of all if you are truly a secular person you need not represent them under different sections and address the needs of backward sections unanimously irrespective of their religion.
2. Your curtain raiser speech started with addressing Ram Temple issue in Ayodha. And you telling me u r a secular person. HA!! Let the temple issue go but you wont because ur hardliner Hindu fundamentalist followers wont let you. Let me tell you one thing, you are the age of my grandfather but I would never ever ever forgive you! What you did at Babri MAsjid was just unpardonable. You broke the secular fabric of my country and created visible rift between Hindu and Muslims! After that there have been so many terror attacks with Muslims citing reasons that they were harassed. I am not saying I support them but YOU gave them a reason to point finger at us! IF there was a LAW AND ORDER in this country, you should have been behind BARS FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE!
Contd Part 3
March 15th, 2009 at 7:05 am
Part 3
1993 riots was a direct result of Babri Masjid and you are solely responsible for it! Tell me one thing, was Ram not a secular god? Did he not believe in equality for all so much so that he ate ‘ber’ from an untouchable lady. So what greater ode or respect can you pay to that god by worshiping a symbol of other religion on his birthplace in peace and harmony? My Hindu religion teaches me tolerance and love for other religions, I dont know your interpretation of Hindu religion neither do I want to know because I wont follow it!
Part 4
March 15th, 2009 at 7:08 am
Part 4
I agree NDA did bring some positive changes in their reign. But they did more damage with Gujarat riots. Dont tell me govt was not hand in glove with them because I refuse to believe that riots of such magnitude can go without the interference of govt same like 26/11 could not have succeeded without the interference of Pak govt! If your govt was serious about giving justice or probing the riots they would have suspended the cabinet with immediate effects and not carry such shoddy proceedings! Forget that Sir, look what happened in Kandhamal where BJP was in rule and more recently Karnataka. The fact of the matter is in every state with BJP rule, there is an increase in communal intolerance and you guys do nothing to curb it. Instead you have allies in people like RSS, VHP and Bajrang Dal who promote such things. Man is known by the company he keeps Sir.
Contd Part 5
March 15th, 2009 at 7:15 am
PArt 5
I strongly oppose your Hindutva ideology (being a HINDU) and support for Hindu Rashtra because the day it happens, I will give up my citizenship as I dont want to be part of another Paksitan! My country is a secular democratic and it will remain one as much as you try otherwise! Because I will tell you what is the strength of my country’s secular democracy, it made a person like you and your party to change their tune from Hinduism to psuedo-secularism in just 15 years to woo us for our votes!
Its a sad fact that people of India get to choose from worst and bad. A nation of 1.2 billion cant find 543 genuine people to represent them. Whenever you guys give tickets to criminal people, fundamentalist and corrupt people, you are insulting us! In TOI survey BJP has the max no.of criminals in their party!
Contd Part 6
March 15th, 2009 at 7:16 am
PArt 6
I am not saying congress is much better but it atleast does not ruffle the communal tensions. I want to live in peaceful INDIA which sadly your party cant provide me! Majority of the population is youth. Thats your major votebank. Try to woo these people with development, economy and job opportunities not with your HINDUTVA ideology! If I give you the power that means electing a BJP-Shiv Sena in Maharashtra and Sena in Mumbai is too much of a dreadful thought for me. I dont want to allow GUNDAS to sit on my head. Because face it neither you nor Congress can control these fascists people. So the least I could do is not give them legal power. I dont see Mumbai ever improving atleast in my lifetime. All the politicians are hand in glove with the slum people and I dont see end to the slums errupting everywhere.
Contd Part 7
March 15th, 2009 at 7:17 am
PArt 7
So in conclusion Sir, just typing a blog on secularism does not make you a secular person. Actions speak louder than words and your opposing the arrest of Sadhvi Pragya because it meant a dab on your pure Hindutva image speaks volume of your mindset. You have crossed your age and are set in your ways so I dont expect you to change! But I seriously hope and pray that young people in your party and all over India dont rub communal feathers for our peace and prosperity.
Hope you dont come to power and I hope the moderator prints my view because the very purpose of this blog is to express our view. Hope you read my response IF IT GETS printed. So sorry Mr Advani you can forget my vote and many of my friends and relatives who think like me. We dont want a home grown fascists group in power. Jai HIND and Jai to my SECULAR DEMOCRACY!
March 18th, 2009 at 7:48 pm
namste sirjeee
simply a great initiative…
i m a great supporter of BJP….I really want BJP to prove itself once again.But ongoing rift between the leaders is making me doubtful about the positive poll results.Due to the problems among members , party is not able to concentrate on pre poll strategies.So plzzz resolve all dat as quickly as possible……………………..
March 30th, 2009 at 8:54 pm
Advani Ji,
To me BJP is the only secular party in India,becasue all the so-called Secular party only talk about minority,so how they can claim that they are secular.In India people talk for Muslims reservation,muslim’s benefits,but if somebody talks for Hindu’s right then he is communal.Why we cannot talk about our majority of population.Just because Hindus are not a vote bank as such.
I have full faith in BJP visions of Uniform civil code and cultural nationalism.
Best wishes for this election.I know we will win.
Jai Hind
April 7th, 2009 at 9:05 am
I am afraid most of the people who write here are praising BJP sky high are deluding themselves. The matter of fact is that BJP has given up its Hindu constituency and thinks of Hindus only during election season by talking about Ram Temple. After compelling VHP to give up claim on Mathura and Vishwanath temples, BJP let down VHP and Mahants by not delivering Ram Janmabhoomi.
BJP is also ambivalent in its support to Sadhvi Pragya Singh and Varun Gandhi. It is doing flip flop. By trying to live up to the standards of secularism prescribed its opponents, BJP has become the laughing stock of Indian politics. Incidentally, why is Mr.Advani’s autobiography defeaningly silent about corruption in BJP?
April 8th, 2009 at 10:58 pm
Hello sir, Your words were so good. I think people under secularism is not secure. They start fighting with each other like BARBARIANS. Many incidents have occurred in past which proves this. I would like to share two things which i’ve uploaded in my website. It is uploaded videos from youtube.
Here there are few eye witness of all criminal activities done. But no government has taken action against this.
http://softsearch.weebly.com/hinduism.html
Brutal activities still continue against HINDUISM while a simple no worthy act against CHRISTIAN has become a BIG FLASH NEWS and many problems occurred.
When India is changing to westernization, it is not a wrong idea to take actions against them. This is what a party did on Valentines day. They were trying to avoid people deviating from our INDIAN culture. But the past government accused them and warned them very badly.
Where is this INDIA going to?
HELL OR HEAVEN????????
April 12th, 2009 at 7:06 pm
Secular word, all party trying to misuse it .it is not defined in our constitution but IT IS the basic feature of our constitution and present in our preamble. supereme court defined secular in India means not anti religion but to respect all the religion equally in SR Bommai v/s union of india case. but our leader took it as respect relogion of the vote bank only. so no body including (cong. and CPM) is secular. when on the demilishion of a structure state govt. is been removed and every body is claiming one party as anti secular
but for hindu cow is a god and hindu respect like god.on the slaughter of cow why all the party are silent. Kerala and west Bengal is very much encouraging cow slaughter no body dare to remove the government of these two state.
then where is the word secular gone
killing cow or allowing cow slaughter in the name of article 48 is unsecular act.
April 12th, 2009 at 7:09 pm
any one please define secular or ask any politician they are talking about secularism but do not know the meaning of secular and killing COW article 48 should be removed and bann on cow slaughter should be a fundament right for hindu cow slaughter should be stopped for a secular country.
April 13th, 2009 at 9:32 pm
please define secular………. in India cow slaughter will be stopped. Only we have to bring in to light that cow is god for Hindu. Our preamble the basic feature of the constitution is secular.
April 16th, 2009 at 1:16 pm
Sir
With due regards, i find BJP a party with great ideas but tarnished history, i am an Engineering Student and i recently attended a rally by mr rajnath singh held at ghaziabad where he is contesting from. the discussion taken up by the party members , there were parshads, ex mayor etc all crying about how hindus are being stunted against a burgeoning muslim population, i dont know if Ram can feed a nation with people earning less the $1 a day, i dont know if Ram can educate 40% of the illiterate population, religious-sentiments is a big tool being used by your party sir, though our respected rajnath singh avoided any such words( media stood there big time!) but this does not change the reality… i support BJP not as a Hindu but as an Indian who believes that it has a sound leadership at helm…. yet Ram baffles me sir… wondering if i ever get a reply…. others are free to send comments on mu mail id-mailcooltarang@gmail.com
May 6th, 2009 at 4:33 pm
i hope BJP comes to power
the manifesto in Shri L.K Advani ji’s website is awesome….
Congress in the name of secularism is practising perverted form of communism…its banking on vote bank politics…if it comes to power no one can save India
People of India should realize this and vote for BJP….
We should propagate this truth to our neigbhours and uneducated people…and save the fate of our motherland
If every citizen attempts to do something….there will be a collective difference…This is the power of democracy…
Jai Ho
March 26th, 2010 at 12:04 pm
Dear Advani ji,
I am a student of MBA residing at Corbett city, Ramnagar, Distt Nanital, Uttarakhand. I have heard a lot about you since my school days, especially of your speeches. When you came to Ramnagar to attend the the public meeting of BJP candidate and my close relative diwan singh bisht on 16 march 2007, I was very eager to hear you. Before your arrival in Ramnagar, the election was not going in our favour but suddenly after the speech, everything changed. A wave was generated in the public of Ramnagar and we won the the election by 11000 votes. At that day, I realised why people call you LOH PURUSH of Adhunik Bharat. I also wish to join you in this movement against congress.
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